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It's Still Racism: WSJ's "Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. MFW

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    Interestingly enough, one of the ingots of Chinese wisdom is, aim for 100, get 80. Those kids aim for Med, drop to Accounting, as supposed to a white kid who does what, aim for Liberal Arts and drop out altogether?

    In fact, Chinese kids learn at a very early age that you are nothing (or more precisely, you haven't achieved nothing yet). The next kid is as smart and as creative as you, if not more so. Without hard work and discipline, he WILL kick your ass. And they planned accordingly.

    Good planning go a long way towards stemming bad execution. Come and think of it, knowing that you have to actually plan is pretty smart in itself.
     
  2. orbb

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    S, in your world, Med is 100, and Accounting 80. Im pretty sure this is NOT an "ingot of Chinese wisdom".
     
  3. da_juice

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    I think that coems from the education system more then anything. Here, school's are obsessed with self-esteem and confidence so they tell them that a C is okay. In China, you're not guranteed an education, so a C could mean you're done.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    If Chinese mothers are so good then why is China three decades behind the United States?
     
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    Never heard of Imperialism? :confused:
     
  6. bingsha10

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    the reason that american chinese are smart and do well is because they are the ones who were smart enough or rich enough to leave china.
     
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  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's all marketing. ;)
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Bingo. What most people in America don't realize is that the immigrants that we get from Asia are the best and brightest. These are the people who give up everything they know to move to a country where they don't speak the common language. They didn't come here to be lazy.

    I would imagine I've been to Asia more than most on the board and I've met plenty of stupid underacheiving Asians. The only difference is that they don't have sense of entitlement and superiority that the bottom of the barrel people have in the US.
     
  9. MFW

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    It wasn't my example that Med is 100 and Accounting is 80. It was yours. I wasn't the one that said "all those kids go to pre-med then drop down to accounting."

    Really? What about Chinese American then? Are they somehow not guaranteed an education in America?


    This quote was so laughable I nearly snorted out my drink. Every empire in history believed they are the best of the best, the ****, whatever, until they fall. Rome is the world. The sun never sets on the British Empire. Yada yada yada. The US is merely the latest iteration. 100 years ago it WASN'T the ****. Chances are, 100 to 200 years in the future, it WOULDN'T be the ****. In fact, the civilisation that stayed the longest at the top of history was the Chinese civilization.

    Having good plans doesn't guarantee success. Believe it or not, it's a tough world and there are always factors beyond your control. It strongly enhances the odds though.

    And immigration goes both ways. In case you haven't noticed, the tide is turning.
     
  10. KingCheetah

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    Thank the god you didn't waste any of your Carp Fizz Zero on one of our posts.
     
  11. thegary

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    What's the matter with the crowd I'm seeing?
    Don't you know that they're out of touch?
    Should I try to be a straight 'A' student?
    If you are then you think too much.
    Don't you know about the new fashion honey?
    All you need are looks and a whole lotta money.
    It's the next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
    It's still racism to me.
    Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
    Funny, but it's still racism to me
     
  12. Acedude

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    Others are right w/ the history note, but there is also a reason why most of the inventions in the modern era (internet, hydrogen bomb, google, iphone, etc etc) came from the western culture. The Chinese (Asian?) education system emphasizes on repetition over creative thinking. While Chinese kids may be good at math because they've practiced thousands of problems sans calculators, western education is fostering thinking outside the box and questioning existing methods/procedures. If you'd look at most of the top companies in China right now (Baidu, Alibaba, Sina, Sohu, Tencent, etc etc), they are all ideas that came from the West, carbon-copied and modified to fit the Chinese society/culture, and became multi-billion dollar companies. Very few, if any, original ideas/inventions/products that came from China, but if you want an iPhone clone made for 20% the price 3 days after release, we've got you covered.
     
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    It paints a wrong picture of Chinese parents. Yes Chinese households are more disciplined than American ones in general, but its not at all how this writer depicts them. LOL no sleepovers, tv, etc? Only piano and violin, and you can't not take piano and violin? GTFO, I'm pretty sure your children will rebel and leave you once they come of age.
     
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    Dude...the compass, papermaking, gunpowder, fireworks, paper money, printing press and hand cannons were inventend by the Chinese. In the modern era, China is fast overtaking the US in terms of economic power. I'm pretty sure the Chinese will be the ones paying for the new Obama tax cuts in a few years.
     
  15. orbb

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    Nope it definitely wasn't mine.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    This is a nice tidbit for Chinese nationalism and propaganda but in reality the average Chinese has a standard of living more on par with people in countries in South America than the US or Europe and it's not very close. China's GDP per capita is like half of Mexico's. Frighteningly enough, if the US bordered China there might not be many Chinese left in China.
     
  17. Mathloom

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    If you're talking about China the country, you talk about GDP rather than GDP per capita.

    If you're talking about Chinese people, you talk about GDP per capita.

    If the initial post was about China, then I think it's appropriate to say China's economic power is so and so.
     
  18. CaptainRox

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    I'm Asian and I can agree with the article. However I'm not nor was I ever a mathlete, pushed into med school or forced to play a classical instrument. On the flip side I was always pretty much forced into what I was called the 'A'soan lectures and high standards. Also I don't think I did the typical Asian hobbies due to the fact I'm 6'7 and excelled at sports and no not tennis, golf or pool.
     
  19. rockbox

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    Did your parents call you trash?
     
  20. CometsWin

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    It's called context. We talk about the haves and the have nots in America, well China is more like the haves and the have nothings.
     

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