Official McGrady/Pistons 2010 Regular Season Thread

_RTM_ · Jan 9, 2011

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roksoer · Jan 9, 2011

it's almost as if every jumper he misses is an in and out sort of miss

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

McGrady hit two jumpers from baseline, Big Ben is out for the game

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

third jumper in a row from the same spot

number22 · Jan 10, 2011

Tracy torching the bulls for not signing him?

Omer · Jan 10, 2011

number22 said:

Tracy torching the bulls for not signing him?
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Hope he lights it up tonight and then they trade for him...Pistons aren't going anywhere, with him the Bulls are contenders.

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

It sounds crazy but Pistons bench has 36 bench points already in the first half

Rockets#1fan · Jan 10, 2011

_RTM_ said:

McGrady hit two jumpers from baseline, Big Ben is out for the game
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What happened to ben?

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

Rockets#1fan said:

What happened to ben?
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He injured his ankle.......... at jumpball situation at the first second of the game

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

that's what Bulls announcers reported I didn't see the moment

Omer · Jan 10, 2011

As soon as McGrady is out of the game the Bulls go on a run.

jzmagic · Jan 10, 2011

How bad was Ben's ankle injury?

VBG · Jan 10, 2011

Damn, T-Mac still has some left in his tank. Wish his team wasn't terrible

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

Daye is cold in the second half. Mac creates opportunities to him but he can't convert

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

Pistons needs McGrady to do it by himself, they are not ready to score big time baskets today

_RTM_ · Jan 10, 2011

This is just horrible

No plays for T-Mac, but there are a lot of shots for cold Daye, or Gordon who's completely out of the game

Spiegel · Jan 11, 2011

Reading the Piston fans reaction to not continue posting Tmac in the second half is hillarious. They are furios that bStuckey was allowed to start the 3rd and give the momentum straight back to the Bulls after Tmac's and Dayes great second quarter to give the Pistons all the momentum.

Omer · Jan 11, 2011

Nice McGrady article form a different perspective.

Feeling T-Mac's Pain

We call players soft. I've never understood where this comes from, other than some misguided belief that we live inside their bodies and understand what it's like to play the game. But regardless, we do. Miss too much time with injury, and you start to affect a team's record. You can't really expect fans to worry about whether a player is in pain, unless it's one of those dramatic, YouTube-d like crazy or broadcast nationally injuries that becomes a charity case. We have a tendency as fans and media, though, to make judgments of character based on what, if you believe anything your team tells you, is a medical fact. Softness is equated with cowardice, lack of effort, and an inability to deliver. Who knows if all of these things correlate in any real way; certainly, being frequently injured will, over time, erode a player's abilities. If it sounds like I'm talking about Tracy McGrady, well, I probably am. Although he is experiencing something of a broke-down renaissance now, T-Mac is now nothing like the high-scoring wing who took the league by storm in 2000-01. McGrady put up a ton of points for a so-so Magic team in the unforgivable Eastern Conference, but eventually, their overall crappiness of the Magic caught up with them -- and McGrady's patience. He then went to the Rockets, where he earned the reputation as a choker, someone who vowed to deliver playoff victories but never advanced past the first round. As soon as he left, his old buddy Yao Ming delivered, and with a collection of spare parts as his back-up band. While T-Mac may be a more sympathetic figure than his wastrel of a cousin Vince Carter -- who, time and time again, has managed to convince us he just wasn't trying that hard -- his reputation is at least partly his own fault. When he was on, McGrady was relentless, unstoppable; unlike Vince, this happened with some regularity. What's more, he embraced the role of leader, leaving Toronto (and Carter) so he could have his own team, and demanding that he be held accountable for the disappointing losses. Selfish, maybe. But certainly not a coward. All of which brings us back to T-Mac and injuries. Everything about the way McGrady handled himself in the league was at odds with a player looking to avoid pressure or responsibility. He insisted on conducting himself like Kobe Bryant, and for a very brief period, some (including the late Ralph Wiley) felt they might be equals. McGrady's mortal sin, then, was the disconnect between being injured all the time and then writing checks his body couldn't cash. That, however, is far from being soft or lacking in determination. Just because he refused to acknowledge his limitations or give up, doesn't mean that we have to look on his injuries as negligible. On the contrary, McGrady -- like Allen Iverson, who famously played through every single broken bone, muscle strain, and contusion known to man -- deserves plaudits for toughing it out. Granted, AI didn't have as many picture-perfect missteps as T-Mac, and did make the Finals that once. But it's odd that, while we loved Iverson for playing hurt, we look at McGrady as a study in human frailty, hubris, and an unwillingness to get it together. Of course, it comes down to time missed. Iverson rarely missed games; T-Mac sat out huge chunks. This distinction, though, seems rather academic. Is always playing the gold standard, such that any missed time becomes anathema? Isn't it possible to sit out some time with a serious injury, only to come back well ahead of schedule? Another problem here: our views of injured athletes fail to differentiate between, well, different kinds of injuries. This past week, I've been dealing with back spasms. I've had them before, down around my tailbone. It didn't hurt, mostly just felt weird. This time, up by my shoulders, they've come on hard, and ruined my life. I can't lift my arms higher than my armpits; can barely steer the car; and had to buy a new chair just to get something cushier. Don't cry for me too hard -- between a bunch of pills, and rest, and heating pads, and more pills, it's manageable now. But for the last week, I have been a useless, poisonous cloud of anger, frustration, and half-assed-ness. I apparently made a receptionist cry when I got mad that my appointment had accidentally been canceled. The point of all this: I cannot for the life of me going through life normally with this kind of persistent condition, much less playing basketball. Let's not forget that, for T-Mac, this meant playing NBA-level, and in an elastic, soaring style that puts tremendous strain on the back. So yeah, what a total wuss. I've always felt it was strange that injury-prone players were criticized for being hurt, as if any time missed was faking it or wasting taxpayer money. In McGrady's case, I've never understood how his being hurt a lot made him a worse person -- rather than mitigate, or qualify, his failings. This week, though, I've come to a crystal-clear conclusion: it's a wonder that, once Tracy McGrady first started dealing with back spasms, he was able to even remotely return to form. Maybe he should have accepted that he was no longer the same player, but then again, often he did a darn good impression of his former self. He's not a hero for it. But I find it harder than ever to turn Tracy McGrady into a punchline. This isn't just a brilliant career cut short. It's a freaking miracle he ever managed to make it part of the way back. When you watch McGrady with the Pistons -- if you ever do -- just remember that, really, he should have looked like this a long, long time ago. It may not be a sky-high dunk over Shawn Bradley, but that McGrady survived at all is about as remarkable a feat of athleticism as you'll find. At least that's how it feels to me this week. (BS)
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http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/10/the-works-would-anyone-win-this-carmelo-anthony-deal/

Omer · Jan 11, 2011

Sorry for the formatting on the last one, here it is again.

Feeling T-Mac's Pain

We call players soft. I've never understood where this comes from, other than some misguided belief that we live inside their bodies and understand what it's like to play the game. But regardless, we do. Miss too much time with injury, and you start to affect a team's record. You can't really expect fans to worry about whether a player is in pain, unless it's one of those dramatic, YouTube-d like crazy or broadcast nationally injuries that becomes a charity case.

We have a tendency as fans and media, though, to make judgments of character based on what, if you believe anything your team tells you, is a medical fact. Softness is equated with cowardice, lack of effort, and an inability to deliver. Who knows if all of these things correlate in any real way; certainly, being frequently injured will, over time, erode a player's abilities.

If it sounds like I'm talking about Tracy McGrady, well, I probably am. Although he is experiencing something of a broke-down renaissance now, T-Mac is now nothing like the high-scoring wing who took the league by storm in 2000-01. McGrady put up a ton of points for a so-so Magic team in the unforgivable Eastern Conference, but eventually, their overall crappiness of the Magic caught up with them -- and McGrady's patience. He then went to the Rockets, where he earned the reputation as a choker, someone who vowed to deliver playoff victories but never advanced past the first round. As soon as he left, his old buddy Yao Ming delivered, and with a collection of spare parts as his back-up band.

While T-Mac may be a more sympathetic figure than his wastrel of a cousin Vince Carter -- who, time and time again, has managed to convince us he just wasn't trying that hard -- his reputation is at least partly his own fault. When he was on, McGrady was relentless, unstoppable; unlike Vince, this happened with some regularity. What's more, he embraced the role of leader, leaving Toronto (and Carter) so he could have his own team, and demanding that he be held accountable for the disappointing losses. Selfish, maybe. But certainly not a coward.

All of which brings us back to T-Mac and injuries. Everything about the way McGrady handled himself in the league was at odds with a player looking to avoid pressure or responsibility. He insisted on conducting himself like Kobe Bryant, and for a very brief period, some (including the late Ralph Wiley) felt they might be equals. McGrady's mortal sin, then, was the disconnect between being injured all the time and then writing checks his body couldn't cash. That, however, is far from being soft or lacking in determination. Just because he refused to acknowledge his limitations or give up, doesn't mean that we have to look on his injuries as negligible.

On the contrary, McGrady -- like Allen Iverson, who famously played through every single broken bone, muscle strain, and contusion known to man -- deserves plaudits for toughing it out. Granted, AI didn't have as many picture-perfect missteps as T-Mac, and did make the Finals that once. But it's odd that, while we loved Iverson for playing hurt, we look at McGrady as a study in human frailty, hubris, and an unwillingness to get it together.

Of course, it comes down to time missed. Iverson rarely missed games; T-Mac sat out huge chunks. This distinction, though, seems rather academic. Is always playing the gold standard, such that any missed time becomes anathema? Isn't it possible to sit out some time with a serious injury, only to come back well ahead of schedule?

Another problem here: our views of injured athletes fail to differentiate between, well, different kinds of injuries. This past week, I've been dealing with back spasms. I've had them before, down around my tailbone. It didn't hurt, mostly just felt weird. This time, up by my shoulders, they've come on hard, and ruined my life. I can't lift my arms higher than my armpits; can barely steer the car; and had to buy a new chair just to get something cushier. Don't cry for me too hard -- between a bunch of pills, and rest, and heating pads, and more pills, it's manageable now. But for the last week, I have been a useless, poisonous cloud of anger, frustration, and half-assed-ness. I apparently made a receptionist cry when I got mad that my appointment had accidentally been canceled.

The point of all this: I cannot for the life of me going through life normally with this kind of persistent condition, much less playing basketball. Let's not forget that, for T-Mac, this meant playing NBA-level, and in an elastic, soaring style that puts tremendous strain on the back. So yeah, what a total wuss. I've always felt it was strange that injury-prone players were criticized for being hurt, as if any time missed was faking it or wasting taxpayer money. In McGrady's case, I've never understood how his being hurt a lot made him a worse person -- rather than mitigate, or qualify, his failings.

This week, though, I've come to a crystal-clear conclusion: it's a wonder that, once Tracy McGrady first started dealing with back spasms, he was able to even remotely return to form. Maybe he should have accepted that he was no longer the same player, but then again, often he did a darn good impression of his former self. He's not a hero for it. But I find it harder than ever to turn Tracy McGrady into a punchline. This isn't just a brilliant career cut short. It's a freaking miracle he ever managed to make it part of the way back.

When you watch McGrady with the Pistons -- if you ever do -- just remember that, really, he should have looked like this a long, long time ago. It may not be a sky-high dunk over Shawn Bradley, but that McGrady survived at all is about as remarkable a feat of athleticism as you'll find. At least that's how it feels to me this week. (BS)
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http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/10/the-works-would-anyone-win-this-carmelo-anthony-deal/

ParaSolid · Jan 11, 2011

Omer said:

Sorry for the formatting on the last one, here it is again.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/10/the-works-would-anyone-win-this-carmelo-anthony-deal/
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Oh what could have been.

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