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Democrats seeking to exploit Arizona tragedy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by da Whopper, Jan 10, 2011.

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  1. da Whopper

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    Never let a good crisis go to waste.

    One veteran Democratic operative, who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Barack Obama should carefully but forcefully do what his predecessor did.

    “They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers,” said the Democrat. “Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people.”

    Another Democratic strategist said the similarity is that Tucson and Oklahoma City both “take place in a climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against the government and Democrats.”

    This Democrat said that the time had come to insist that Republicans stand up when, for example, a figure such as Fox News commentator Glenn Beck says something incendiary.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47294.html#ixzz1AeXhkIoM
     
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    An extreme, left-wing Democrat group calling itself 21st Century Democrats has had the gall to send out an email blast using as a fundraising tool Saturday’s criminal shooting of Representative Gabrielle Giffords in Arizona. Judge John Roll and four others were killed in the incident, one of them a 9-year-old girl, but these Democrats are ignorant enough to be using this incident to try and squeeze donations from its supporters. Some might think the action of 21st Century Democrats is itself a crime — a crime against decency.

    The email blast sent out Sunday morning to its supporters tells members that “we don’t know yet” why Jared Loughner shot Gabrielle Giffords but goes on to lay the blame on Sarah Palin and Gifford’s opponent in the past election for using “violent imagery” in his campaign.

    The email goes on to ask members to “join us in sharing your thoughts and prayers to the Congresswoman and her family by visiting our website where we have set up a page for you to do so.” Naturally once you click on the link you are taken to a page that prominently displays the group’s DONATE NOW button. It is not in the slightest way discreetly designed. As soon as you go to this so-called prayers page you see a large button asking for donations and another one underneath it urging visitors to “sign up” for email blasts and information.

    Disgustingly, 21st Century Democrats is using this crime in a fundraising effort.

    Gauche is hardly a strong enough word to describe this action.

    21st Century Democrats is no unheard of fringe group, either. Styling itself as one that is “building a progressive majority from the grassroots up,” it is interesting to note that some major top-down players in the Democrat Party founded the group. The group was created in 1986 by Senator Tom Harkin, a powerful Democrat from Iowa, and was co-founded by left-wing pundit Jim Hightower and former Illinois Congressman Lane Evans. These folks are hardly “grassroots” sort of folks.

    Worse, even as this email blast accuses Sarah Palin and former candidate Jesse Kelly for using “violent imagery” and for “targeting” Giffords, this group is associated directly with The Daily Kos run by Markos Moulitsas who used precisely that same sort of “targeting” rhetoric last year during the campaign for the midterm elections.

    In 2009 21st Century Democrats joined the Service Employees International Union, The Daily Kos and others in a new political action committee (PAC) called Accountability Now PAC.

    Will 21st Century Democrats quit this PAC now that it has become aware that Markos Moulitsas used the same “violent imagery” and “targeting” rhetoric against Gabrielle Giffords? Will this purported “grassroots” groups founded by powerful members of Congress avoid charges of hypocrisy and stand on its supposed principle?

    I’ll bet you’ll know the answer to that already.


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    So you're saying the OKC bombings didn't have anything to do with militias and anti-government people?

    That's not deft on Clinton's part, that's daft on your part.
     
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    Bill Clinton tried to blame OKC on Rush Limbaugh.
     
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    eh, ownage of a pure copy paste alter ego of a D&D ghost is like beating up an amoeba - it's pyrrhic at best.

    Soon he'll be gone, and then he'll be back. Fun!
     
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    Y'all saying it over and over doesn't make it true. God, you guys are - dare I say it - easy targets.
     
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    <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/eW4jQw9lLzs?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/eW4jQw9lLzs?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10krugman.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

     
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    thanks for posting that.

    There was a lot of 'tear' being spread around after 9/11. Even at this hallowed bbs the fear mongering was in full effect. I think treeman might still be out looking for those dern WMDs.

    Remember Chievous they have to live with that. Your video reminds me of that paranoia and makes my heart hurt for the OP. I believe the blood for oil is at 4432 in iraq. and oh yeah the 3000 at ground zero and 9/11 that bush and cheney peed on afterwards. It's sickening. I hope it's worth it to cheney and bush? I hope their bed of hundys feels nice?Good for them. oh well collateral damage I suppose.right?

    Nobody is trying to exploit any tragedy in AZ.Shame on you OP for even having the *whatever* to post that idea. I hope OP this is just you following rank from the current playbook...and that maybe just maybe you came on board with the GOP recently (well after 9/11).. and that you don't see how sickening this attempt to connect anyone with exploiting anything when it comes to politics. It was the crime of the century. That's what the GOP did with 9/11 afterwards and now I am just confused with you OP and the whole mentality. Seriously it's disturbing. not sure how you can type with all that blood on your hands from 9/11 OP. Talk about paranoia.

    I said I wasn't going to post in this forum and here I am posting in this forum.
     
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    I still have a baste taste in my mouth for how Republicans raped the memory of 9/11 and used it to attack Iraq. I still have a bad taste for how Republicans continued to come up with justification after justification on why we were fighting there. It will take generations before I could ever trust that party again.

    Both sides have been ugly after this shooting. Politicians do need to be held responsible for their words/campaigning (ie: Palin target practice picture). On the other hand, I think we need to tone down attacks on the tea party members as this leads to a cyclical moronic scream fest.

    This was a senseless act made by a confused kid. We will know in time why he carried out this heinous act. Pointing the finger (while natural after something like this) only causes more harm to our political landscape. We need to be mourning the loss of innocence. Please do her justice and read:

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    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/09/20110109gabrielle-giffords-arizona-shooting-tucson-girl-killed.html
     
  19. bucket

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    It being true makes it true. This is probably the worst ownage I've ever seen in the D&D.
     
  20. Depressio

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    Anyone who doesn't think this was aided by incendiary rhetoric is simply kidding themselves.

    Fire burns. Gasoline makes it burn more. Stop pouring gasoline into the fire. Thanks.
     
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