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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jan 8, 2011.

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  1. Ramathorn006

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    Um yeah because it is TRUE.
     
  2. Major

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    Do you actually equate using the term bulls-eye, with putting crosshairs on a district, using gun-related rhetoric and saying Reps need to be taken out, saying we Democrats are a dangerous threat to society, saying we need to use 2nd Amendment rights to remove people from office, talking about secession and how evil government is, and saying it might be time for revolution?

    Really? That's your response: that a Dem web blogger used the term bulls-eye in a totally different context?
     
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  3. da Whopper

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    You are a fundamentally evil person incapable of rational thought.
     
  4. Commodore

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    The context is the same (defeating the candidate in an election).
     
  5. trustme

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    Dang, don't go all Hitler on us.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't think it matters at all what the political affiliations and leaning of the shooter were because the prime motivation was his obvious derangement.

    However, I also don't think it is out of the question to examine derangement in political movements and over the top political rhetoric at this time.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Not when you're the party of gun-nuts who blow up federal buildings.
     
  8. da Whopper

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    “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

    - Barack Obama
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    please stop. You are making yourself look foolish.

    Using common idioms that have combat themes is not the same as what someone like Sharon Angle did when she talked about second amendment remedies to elections she didn't like.

    Nor is it the same as as this right wing personality who almost became a campaign manager of another tea party candidate.

    You can watch video of her at the link.

    If you are unable to see the difference between idioms, and speech like this and the second amendment remedies type of talk then you need to spend time doing something other than posting on a bbs.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    He would stop if foils would stop responding to him

    begone meowgi ghost
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    You are only showing the difference in the rhetoric. There is nothing wrong with anger. There is something wrong with second amendment remedies to elections that people don't like, and the idea that if ballots don't work bullets will.

    You act like the two sides have equivalent inflammatory rhetoric, but everything you post only shows the difference between the two. One actually literally suggests violence, and the other only uses idioms and well established figures of speech that are known not to be literal.

    The fact that you either don't understand the difference or choose to pretend you don't to defend the rhetoric doesn't reflect well on you.
     
  12. da Whopper

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  13. NMS is the Best

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    da Whopper is a troll. Do not feed.
     
  14. da Whopper

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    “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.”

    - Barack Obama
     
  15. Honey Bear

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    This isn't time nor the place, but who was talking about buying the dollar and shorting the Euro back in Nov? Not the nerdy technical analysts. A smart, hot guy who relies on fundamentals. That's who.
     
  16. glynch

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    Some exerpts from juancole.com the very valuable blog about the Middle East by the prominent U of Michigan profesor.

    The subtext of the angst over the shooting of Giffords is that in recent months Loughner was saying Tea-Party-like things about the Federal government. The violent language of “elimination,” “putting in the cross-hairs,” (as with Palin’s poster, above) “taking back,” “taking out,” to which members of that movement so often resort, has created a heated atmosphere that easily seeps into the unconscious of the mentally disturbed. That is Dupnik’s point.

    There apparently is some indication that Loughner had an accomplice, and his arrest and identification will shed a great deal more light on the motivations behind this political massacre. Did Loughner have a Rasputin?

    In some ways, the turn of Loughner to the themes of the American far right parallels what happened to Michael Enright, who slashed the throat of a Bangladeshi cab driver at the height of the campaign promoting hatred of Muslims launched last summer-fall by Rick Lazio and Rupert Murdoch. Everyone should have learned from that tragedy that heated rhetoric has consequences.

    Those right-wing bloggers who want to dismiss Loughner as merely disturbed are being hypocritical, since they won’t similarly dismiss obviously unstable Muslims who, like the so-called “Patriots” of the McVeigh stripe, sometimes turn violent. (Zacharias Moussawi, for instance, isn’t playing with a full set of backgammon dominoes, and blaming Islam for him is bizarre). In fact, the right-wing Muslim crackpots and the right-wing American crackpots are haunted by similar anxieties, about a powerful government in Washington undermining their localistic ideas of the good life.
     
  17. da Whopper

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    Who knows what evidence will come forward in coming days, but based on what we know now, the attempt to blame Palin and opponents of Obama for the shooting is every bit as delusional as Loughner's attempt to blame government mind control.

    Unfortunately, this is not the first time we have seen this type of reaction. The meme that opponents of Obama are crazy and dangerous has been an explicit Democratic Party campaign strategy for over two years. Here is just a partial list of events in which the left-wing and Democratic Party media operation has immediately blamed right-wing rhetoric, only to be proven wrong when the facts finally came out: Bill Sparkman, Amy Bishop, The Fort Hood Shooter, The IRS Plane Crasher, The Cabbie Stabbing, and The Pentagon Shooter.


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  18. Honey Bear

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    "We need to hunker down with guns and ammunition because the coming Hurricane is a symbol of our freedom being lost. If you see something you don't like, you need to let the issue know they're on your property and they're liable for whatever **** goes down. So strap up, strap on and fight for your country even though we don't have enough oil for us to declare war on ourselves. The blood red, Backelnkov-47 Blue and Steel White of the American flag have bled for you in the past, and bleed for you now. Sarah Palin has some big ass tatties. Brrrr hunka down Americans!

    -George W. Bush
     
  19. da Whopper

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    Mr. Enright is also a volunteer with Intersections International, an initiative of the Collegiate Churches of New York that promotes justice and faith across religions and cultures. The organization, which covered part of Mr. Enright's travel expenses to Afghanistan, has been a staunch supporter of the Islamic center near ground zero. Mr. Enright volunteered with the group's veteran-civilian dialogue project.

    Joseph Ward III, the director of communications for Intersections, said that if Mr. Enright had been involved in a hate crime, it ran "counter to everything Intersections stands for" and was shocking.


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  20. FranchiseBlade

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    fair enough. I'll stop.
     

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