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Thoughts on the OU/UT Game

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Major, Oct 12, 2002.

  1. Major

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    (1) Our defense wasn't all bad. They sucked at first, then did really well until the 4th quarter. They were on the field *so much* because of our inept offense that this isn't surprising.

    (2) Our offense is ridiculously bad. You can't take this much talent and make it much worse than we have. There was some progress though. The offense scored 7 pts instead of last year's 3.

    (3) OU just plays to win - they play with confidence. Some call it arrogance, but I wish we had that attitude. That attitude showed in that go-for-it on 4th down in the 1st half. They almost always make the big plays - it's time to stop calling it "luck".

    (4) UT started out playing to win and did well. Then Simms had the 2 INTs. Then we got scared. We decided to play not-to-lose the rest of the way. The kneeling at the 50 was pathetic. If you can't trust your QB to make plays, something's wrong.

    (5) Our offensive playcalling wasn't great, but everyone here wanted us to not give up on the run, and that's what we did. Simms has to complete those short passes and he simply didn't. Some were WR mistakes, but more were badly thrown passes or simply not finding receivers. The INTs sucked, but the first one was at least in trying to make a play. The 2nd one was a bad pass where he never once looked off his receiver; the 3rd wasn't really his fault, except that he missed the wide-open receiver streaking down the sideline for a TD. Passing for 94 yards, 0 TDs and 3 INTs says it all (and 40 of those yards were on 1 play). 143 Total Yards might be one of the all-time worst offensive performances by UT. The players simply aren't performing; it's time to stop blaming the playcalling.

    (6) We got beaten in every phase of the game - offense, defense, special teams. We did NOT lose due to the refs. There were some close calls, but I thought they were all the right calls except the personal-foul on the punt (but that would have been a 10yard penalty anyway with a halo violation).

    (7) UT is going to be tested against both KSU and Iowa State. Neither of those is a gimmie game. We are also going to need serious help from other teams against OU to have a shot at the B12 Championship game - they have an easy schedule without Nebraska or KSU, and getting Colorado and ISU at home, I believe.

    (8) Mack Brown & company got out-coached bigtime. Bob Stoops and his staff are much better game-day coaches, and it showed today. They gameplan better, they adjust better, and they don't play scared.

    Ah well, there's always next year. :)
     
  2. mduke

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    Mack is a better recruiter though.
     
  3. Prempeh

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    mduke, it must be fun for you right now...

    I know that comment is tongue in cheek -- but what's the point? Every rational UT fan (no that's not an oxymoron) knows and understands that you can't defend Mack forever for his lack of gameday execution. All the annual excitement of signing day for us should be a thing of the past from now on until we live up to the hype.
     
  4. Rocketman95

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    Nebraska isn't a gimme game either...neither is Tech. It wouldn't surprise me if UT finished 7-5.

    We suck.
     
  5. Major

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    I know that comment is tongue in cheek -- but what's the point?

    I dunno -- with all the trash-talking UT fans were doing going into today, mduke has no reason not to rub it in.
     
  6. Elienator

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    My thoughts are that Texas' staff was simply outcoached. After the first two picks, they went ultra-conservative which was clearly not going to win the game. Don't need to worry about Simms confidence since losing this game means it really doesn't matter the rest of the way. I'd have rather seen him throw 4 more ints, and at least try to win the game. When you play to not lose a game, you usually do.
     
  7. kidrock8

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    mduke has no reason to not rub it in, but he could always take the high road, if he so chose to. Unfortunately, as much as I like him, he's coming off as a little prick, trying to get his cheap shots in when he can.

    I wanted UT to lose for the reason that most of their fans seem to be too arrogant for my liking... Now mduke is kind of acting like one.

    Come on mduke, just shut up, and only brag, if a UT fan feels the need to bash OU from this point on.

    Now, I can kind of see how UT fans b!tch about OU fans. Win with class.
     
  8. tozai

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    You shouldn't root against UT because some fans represent us bad. Of course there are some delusional ones at hornfans, but there are bad fans for EVERY team. It's just more apparent when you get your judgement from one site. There are plenty of rational and true fans for both UT and OU as well.
     
  9. kidrock8

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    That's true, it's just that most of my bitterness (ok maybe all) comes from the arrogance at HF.com. That site is horrible, in terms of UT's reputation. I live in Houston, and yet, I still judge UT on their bad apples who post at HF. I should know better...

    IMO, most of the blind UT fans, are the old fart alums, who are too proud about their alma mater. Most UT students I know, are usually level-headed when it comes to UT sports. Though DVauthrin seemed to be too confident IMO. The Cat also.

    I have nothing but respect for UT players themselves, as generally UT has a clean program, and doesn't have that many off the field issues.

    My pathetic sudden hatred for UT just stems from the fans who constantly say "ou sucks" despite being their b!tch for a 3rd straight year. If UT fans would just quit running smack against a team that currently owns them, I would have no problem at all with UT. Take your beating like a man, and shutup until you beat OU.
     
  10. BrianKagy

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    Are you aware that "OU sucks" is a cutesy-stupid fan thing that's been going on for more than 30 years? Like "tu" or the horns-down sign.
     
  11. Major

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    Hmmm, we might be having the start of some public grumbling...

    http://msn.espn.go.com/ncf/s/2002/1012/1445172.html

    <I>
    People also will remember Texas' inability to get the ball to all-world receiver Williams for the second consecutive year. That includes Williams, who criticized the UT coaching staff after the game for being too conservative.

    "I thought we could have hit the ball downfield a lot more than we did," Williams said. "They were sitting in a two-deep zone, and they were very vulnerable downfield."

    Instead, Williams ended the day with two catches, only one of which was meaningful. He darted past OU's zone in the first quarter, hauling in a 44-yard pass to the 2 yard line. That set up a diving touchdown by Simms and UT's early 7-0 lead. As for why they didn't hook up again until 31 seconds remained, Williams just shook his head and held a blank stare.

    "I really can't tell you, man," Williams said. "I really can't tell you."

    </I>

    Mack's latest excuse:

    <I>
    As for Brown, he threw blame to the wind -- literally. He pointed to the afternoon breeze, which was announced at 10 mph, as an excuse for Texas' inability to move the ball.
    </I>

    ...

    <I>
    Brown did everything but blame his quarterback. In fact, he went out of his way to protect Simms, deflecting media questions after the game.

    "He's one of the best quarterbacks in the country," Brown said. "He's playing as well as anyone in the country and he'll continue to do so. You ought to look at the Colorado game last year."
    </I>

    I find it funny that he has to go back to a game last October to point out a "good" game.

    This is pathetic.
     
  12. Kim

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    I was going to say something, but I'll keep my mouth shut. There are good and bad players (and I'm talkin about human decency here) and "clean program" is a relative term. But the same stuff happens everywhere.

    I will say that dormhall paintball wars is some of the funnest stuff you can ever experience...and can only be experienced thanks to the UT football floors of Jester East. Thank You UT football.

    And the "OU sucks" is lame, but easy to say, like "TU"...though I agree that it's all stupid sillyness, but to each his own.
     
  13. kidrock8

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a 2-deep zone, intended to take away the deep ball, since you have 2-safeties sitting back? If so, then Roy needs to re-learn how to play the game of football.

    It probably also didn't help that it didn't look like Roy could run anywhere near 100%
     
  14. Kam

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    IT IS 11:12 PM (central time)
    ...AND UT GOT THEIR ASS KICKED AGAIN.
     
  15. drapg

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    actually, i'm pretty positive that a 2-deep zone is only 2 corners and no safeties. the two defenders split the field into halves and cover the deepest threat first. if so, Roy was 100% right.

    edit: as for the title of this thread, if you actually care about my thoughts for this game, check out my website (its in my sig)... i wrote a column about the game. just my rant about the TX performance.
     
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  16. DCkid

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    That's okay. He won't be laughing when A&M beats OU on November 9. :D

    They were only one interception away from upsetting OU last time they played at Kyle Field. It could happen, but maybe I'll just wait and see how the Aggies do against Nebraska before I start talkin' too much trash.
     
  17. kidrock8

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    I expect the OU-A&M to be much like the A&M-VT game. Slow, conservative game, dictated by spec teams and defense. With that in mind, it means the game will be close. A&M will have a chance to win the game, but we shall see if they can make the plays to win.
     
  18. JamesC

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    (4) My thoughts exactly. I was pissed off when UT took a knee with 5 seconds left in the 1st half. Bob Stoops would've jumped at that opportunity to try for a deep touchdown. UT has one of the best recieving corps in thr country. Mack Brown needs to use that to his advantage.

    Bob Stoops is a flat out better coach than Mack Brown. He knows how to maximize the talent of his players. Mack Brown needs to take a page out of his book.
     
  19. Holden

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    you want my thoughts on the OU/UT game?

    ok....

    UT fans are the most ignorant, egotistical college football fans in the country.

    everyone who wears burnt orange looks like a freaking r****d with their pants down.

    and every longhorn fan got what they deserved today.

    How does that taste?!
     
  20. kidrock8

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    That was the feeling I had too... However, don't paint UT fans with such a broad brush. Smokey and Major are one of the few objective UT fans, who didn't think UT would win by 10-20 pts (ahem The Cat).
     

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