Shame on Daryl Morey for not stealing away a superstar, and shame on those teams for not giving in to our demands.
Atlanta didn't draft Joe Johnson but good try though. It takes luck and risks to win championships. Luck: San Antonio drafting Tim Duncan, Lakers getting Pau Gasol for merely nothing Risks: Lakers trading for Kobe, Boston trading a young Al Jefferson for KG and then acquiring Ray Allen Unless you are the Detroit Pistons where good coaching lead them to championships.
Let me ask you, what makes you think he hasn't done anything? Because another GM hasn't handed him a top-notch center? I see. Also, managing to trade a lottery-protected 2012 first rounder for the 11th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft (who the Rockets liked as a top-10 pick) is a pretty nice accomplishment. But I can see how making that trade somehow directly prevented the Rockets from getting Dwight Howard.
The Rockets are not the Texans. When the loses continue and the attendance numbers drop in the Toyata Center, I see management getting desperate. The Texans will sell out forever, if they win or not, but ticket sales will force Morey into doing a trade to save the season and his job.
Look... Everyone here wants to burn morey at the stake but think about it... Where would They be if Martin wasn't acquired, ariza wasn't traded.. Ab's contract was extended... Etc... He makes good small moves but with Yao and McGrady's years now over, he is trying to rebuild without sucking, but it's inevitable and I'm sure he knew it was bound to happen either way. I believe after this season it's time for a coaching change and I will Be very surprised if adelman is asked back.
R U Kidding? They started over and built a fantastic roster. That in it self is success my freind. Acquiring Westbrook and Green is success (Durant fell on their lap). Integrating and developing Thabo and Ibaka is sucess. Getting past the 1st round in the playoffs so damn quickly is success (for such an young team). They are well on their way to being an elite team in the future. Every year as these young guns grow they will get better. Rebuilding the OKC way is the perfect exmple for any team that wants to satrt over. All they need is a big with a post game. Some one they can dump the ball inside to. I see them in LA and Spurs territoy if the do land that big.
Boston drafted Paul Pierce - And he was nothing before Allen and Garnett. Orlando drafted Dwight Howard - Agreed. Chicago drafted Rose and Noah - Agreed have not won anything. Atlanta drafted Joe Johnson - What? He Was signed as a FA from PHX San Antonio drafted Duncan, Manu, and Parker - yep Dallas drafted Nowitzki - Nope, he was traded for Tractor Taylor Lakers drafted Kobe _ Nope he was traded for Vlade Divac OKC drafted Durant and Westbrook - Yep, not won anything Utah drafted Deron Williams - Who cares? Denver drafted Carmelo - about to be traded after not winning jack. New Orleans drafted Paul and West - Again, not won anything, Paul bailing Portland drafted Aldridge and Roy - Roy is toast Miami drafted Wade - True but without Lebron and Bosh, they are nothing. DD
Agreed. Morey is trying to do it the Boston Celtics way. How long will he stick to this approach? These kind of trades rarely happen. Will he wait 5 years for that star to fall on his lap? How long do we have to endure medocrity?
...don't discount the fact that Wade led Miami to a title in '06. He won Finals MVP after dropping 42, 36, 43, and 36 in games 3, 4, 5, and 6 (all of which Miami won). His 33.8 PER in the series was ranked by Hollinger as the greatest Finals performance since the NBA-ABA merger. Wade and the Heat were accomplished without LeBron and Bosh.
Amare Stoudemire, this year's probable MVP, fell into his lap and he didn't have the balls to pull the trigger. This is entirely his fault.
I am about to explode. We have one of the best GM's in the league and he is getting scapegoated because he can not make a championship team out of thin air. I feel like in some way the Texans have doomed the Rockets. Management is NOT the issue for the Rockets..
This post doesn't make any sense. My point is that virtually every team that is good or wins a title started by the drafting (or draft day trade as I mentioned) of a superstar player. And so what if teams like OKC and Chicago haven't won anything? They are in much better positions than us. And saying "who cares" to Utah drafting Deron Williams is pretty idiotic since they win 50 games and make the playoffs every year, which again is better than us. Every one of those teams are in better shape than us because they were able to LAND A SUPERSTAR THROUGH THE DRAFT. If you think we can completely rebuild without landing our centerpiece in the draft, you're ignoring NBA history, because that has barely ever happened.
Also saying Paul Pierce and Wade were "nothing" before those teams landed other stars is just ignorant. Wade won a title long before Lebron and Bosh showed up, and the only reason Shaq agreed to go there is because they had Wade, WHOM THEY DRAFTED. And Pierce got Boston to the conference finals one year without Garnett or Allen, which again is a position the Rockets would gladly take, and Garnett or Allen would not have gone to Boston had they not already had Pierce WHOM THEY DRAFTED. The draft is the key to rebuilding in the NBA -- always has been.
It's abundantly clear that the Rockets are heading towards another lottery, yet they'll win just enough games to screw their chances of getting a top five pick, and Morey can sell us on another "NBA ready" player who won't even crack next season's rotation. And this is acceptable? Two years in a row? I'm all for being patient, but the Rockets aren't going to get any closer to a championship by continuing to draft between 10 and 14. They must do whatever it takes to get into the top five, preferably the top three. Last Summer changed everything. We aren't going to tempt a star to sign with us unless we already have one, so how do we get that first star? Trade? Who? Which top 10 player under 30? Who? Free agent? Who? Which top 10 player under 30? Who? Let's hear some names, a player we have a realistic chance of trading for, or signing, who's still in his prime?
This. No star player is coming here unless we already have a star, and the only way a team like ours will get a star is through the draft. Anybody who questions the draft, the ONLY teams in the last 25 years to win a title without a superstar THEY DRAFTED (or a pick traded for on draft day) leading them is Detroit and the Shaq Lakers teams. That's it. All 21 other title teams of the last 25 years drafted their main star/first star. That star either lead them to win or made the team attractive enough to other stars. That's just the reality of the situation. Even if you want to count the Kobe Lakers teams as exceptions since he was a draft day trade, that's 19 out of the last 25 title teams that drafted their main/first star.
Thunder drafted #2, #4, #3. That's three years of ABYSMAL performance. And that's despite the fact that they hit the jackpot with Durant, due to Portland being idiots. In other words 1. They got lucky in terms of ping-pong balls 2. They got FURTHER lucky in terms of team(s) in front of them being idiots 3. They SUCKED BADLY FOR A LONG TIME 4. They still haven't won anything yet, and could easily go the way of the Blazers with an injury to the wrong player Basically, the Thunder may be the poster-child for the goodness of tanking and being really, really lucky at it. And even then, with a great GM working for them, they're still not certain as a championship contender.
