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DeAndre Jordan, do you see DM going after him this season???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Houston_Rockets, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. mrjuandiego1988

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    u guys hype up morey so much that yall forget he is human and that he also takes a $hit just like us! he cant get every gem from the draft! ;)
     
  2. durvasa

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    Dorsey's inability to crack 30+ minutes of game time is not because he can't rebound or get blocks/steals. That's why I also wrote: "He's also averaged about 5.9 fouls per 36 minutes, he's struggled with foot problems, and is basketball IQ is questionable."

    If you want to assess how productive a player with limited playing time has been or could be, it makes a hell of a lot more sense to look at what they did per minute (or based on a percentage -- i.e. rebound%, blk%, steal%) then to post their per game numbers. The goal is to understand how productive they've been while they were on the court, not while they were on the bench.
     
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  3. TheGreat

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    I dont care durvasa.

    You dont pass on a 7 foot center with sky high potential.

    You dont take an undersized PF.
     
  4. BimaThug

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    I agree with durvasa about Dorsey. He's actually done about as well in his career as you can expect an early second rounder to do. He is a rotation player in Toronto; and while that doesn't say much, he's got an NBA job and PLAYS.

    On DeAndre Jordan, there's a reason why every team with a first round pick passed on him, even though most mock drafts had him as a late lottery pick. His motor, work ethic and basketball IQ are all highly questionable. I personally don't see what all the fuss is about him. All he does is dunk, and he's horrible defensively. Piece of advice: BLOCKING SHOTS DOES NOT EQUAL GOOD DEFENSE. Sure, it's nice that he is capable of blocking shots; but the kid is never in position on defense, and the other team typically outscores the Clippers when he's on the floor.

    This "mistake" has been so overplayed, IMO. It wasn't that big a mistake, really.
     
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  5. durvasa

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    Why did Deandre Jordan last all the way to the 5th pick in the second round, if he was viewed as a 7 footer with sky high potential? I'm not asking the question to argue with you, I'm genuinely curious.
     
  6. TheGreat

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    I'm guessing Morey thought Dorsey was the better player at that moment. But still, he didn't even get any playing time in Houston.

    Jordan had much more potential obviously.
     
  7. BimaThug

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    I completely agree.

    Sincerely,

    Paul Millsap, #47 overall pick, 2006 NBA Draft
    Carl Landry, #31 overall pick, 2007 NBA Draft
    Glen Davis, #35 overall pick, 2007 NBA Draft
    Many others
     
  8. TheGreat

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    Still though, on this team, he will make us a better defensive team TODAY.

    Again, wait till his body develops, he is only getting better at this point.

    Our best shot blocker is Shane Battier at SF...
     
  9. durvasa

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    What I was really asking was why he every other team picking 1 through 34 passed up on him. BimaThug's response provides a possible answer.
     
  10. Hakeemtheking

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    Best Player Available (BPA) over need.

    Oopps.....
     
  11. BimaThug

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    We also completely agree.

    Sincerely,

    Patrick O'Bryant - #9 pick, 2006 NBA Draft
    Saer Sene - #10 pick, 2006 NBA Draft
    Hilton Armstrong - #12 pick, 2006 NBA Draft
    Cedric Simmons - #15 pick, 2006 NBA Draft
    Sean Williams - #17 pick, 2007 NBA Draft
    Jermareo Davidson - #36 pick, 2007 NBA Draft
    Alexis Ajinca - #20 pick, 2008 NBA Draft
    Lots of other foreign big men
     
  12. BimaThug

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    Does he???

    I don't think so.

    Overall defensively, he's not really an upgrade over Jordan Hill.

    Again, just because you can block shots doesn't make you a good defender.
     
  13. TheGreat

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    He's right, his IQ/work ethic but you won't tell when he comes into the NBA, it could be a different story.

    But you dont always have to pass on talent.

    Look at Dez Bryant, Percy Harvin in the NFL.

    They dropped too.
     
  14. durvasa

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    2nd round pick, Rockets wanted to add a player they felt was more NBA-ready and would be more of a contrast to Yao (and possibly Deke also, if added).

    I think the real argument here is that the Rockets were too short-sighted and focused on building a contender that year, when they should have assumed that Yao's availability would be highly questionable and been building purely for the future. Fair enough.
     
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    If I'm driving into the lane and I know Luis Scola is there best big man blocker, I am not going to be scared to go up and go for the layup/dunk.

    If DeAndre Jordan is in there, I know mentally that he can block my shot which can change my shot.

    Size/blocking ability makes a difference.
     
  16. JamesC

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    This. I thought DeAndre Jordan was a huge disappointment at A&M. I thought he had Dwight Howard ability but a Kelvin Cato work ethic. Glad to see him playing much better though.
     
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    No, Jordan had much more potential in retrospect. Unfortunately, you never know in advance how these things will turn out. Otherwise, the Blazers would have followed up the multiple championships Michael Jordan brought them by building a team around Kevin Durant.
     
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    Why are we talking about 2 2nd rounders 3 years ago? De-Andre Jordan is not garbage, but he is FAR from good. He's lost on defense half the time he’s on the floor and benefits from being on a bad team. He's athletic and that's about it. Morey didn't make a mistake....we have Deandre Jordan already...his name is Jordan Hill and how is his athleticism working out so far?
     
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    Hasheem Thabeet or DeJuan Blair?
     
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