The Rockets, looking to use Yao Ming's $17.7 million expiring contract to add a potential star or two to its roster, recently called Sacramento and offered the 7-foot-6 center for Samuel Dalembert and DeMarcus Cousins. The Kings had no interest, and are definitely not trading Cousins anywhere, according to sources. Despite its poor record, Sacramento (5-23) likes its future with young building blocks Cousins and Tyreke Evans. Whatever the new salary cap is after the next collective bargaining agreement, the Kings will be far beneath it and could have more money to spend in free agency than just about any other team. So if they do make any trades this season, they won't be ones in which they add lots of salary.
Acquire Wallace? Heard about Houston has reached out to the Bobcats for trading Yao's contract, so tried some ideas on a trade machine on ESPN. Here's my ideal transaction, http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23egtye AB+Yao+Chase <=> Wallace+Augustin+Diop. For the Bobcats, it gives them a great cap relief. For the Rockets, they get instant players. Diop adds defence in the paint, Augustin can play the role what Brown does in the Lakers, as for Wallace, I don't see any reason of rejecting him. I don't know what deal the Bobcats is willing to offer, feels like their talk has gone cold.
What makes you think Rick Adelman wants a guy that he didn't even play in SAC? Crash just doesn't fit until the style Rick likes.
I don't see Morey taking on a bad contract that runs for more than two years in any deal. Just doesn't seem to fit his m.o.. I do think he'll use Yao's contract to enter the Melo sweepstakes though. Earlier in the year, I definitely would have agreed with that assessment, but I think Morey and Adelman are starting to warm up on Hill. Right now neither has great trade value though, which is why I don't see a trade being made in the very near future. I think Morey has no particular preference at this point, but the fact that Hill will likely hold more value, makes him probably more likely to be traded. I agree. The Rockets can't trade the 2011 pick, due the fact that they already traded their 2012 for Terrence Williams and that the NY 2012 pick is protected. Again, I agree. I think Morey really likes Cousins and would take him in a second for the right deal, but Morey knew the Kings would in no way, shape or form trade Cousins and Dalembert for Yao. Morey is just starting conversations and setting a value base, while throwing some smoke around. His real target is probably indeed Carmelo. I could also see him try to net him Nene. Unlikes others (judging from this thread) I think Brooks is very likely to be a part of the Yao, Budinger, Patterson/Hill, picks package. I just don't see Morey wanting to pay Brooks the $7-11/year he'll likely get from some team in free agency. I also think Morey woudn't hesitate to include Brad Miller, if they can get some kind of value for him. The fact that the Nuggets are in the same conference makes things though, but I believe Morey will figure it out, one way or the other. Nene Hayes Scola Hill/PP Melo Battier Martin T.Williams Lowry Lee (Ish) *dream*
There is no grounds for tampering when you are talking to your own player about the future and negotiating with him concerning the future. If the Rockets and Yao are talking and the Rockets tell Yao they are willing to sign him to an extension right now that equals the current MLE for the next 3 years and Yao agrees to sign that extension, then the Rockets tell him they would like to trade his contract as an expiring to bring in more talent this season and then sign him after the season to the MLE and he agrees that he wants to do that, it is not tampering. The team trading for him would already know he isn't re-signing with them. They would have the opportunity to talk Yao out of the what he wants to do by offering him a big dollar deal. There is no tampering unless the Rox start talking to Yao's people after Yao is traded and under contractual obligation to another team. Right now he isn't. So, they can talk about next year or the next 20 years. He's under contract with them. With that in mind, let's assume for the moment that the new salary cap for 2011/12 is the same $58 million and the MLE is the same. We know they won't be. But in the new CBA, Stern is going to push for across the board cuts. That means everything is going to go down proportionally. All contracts are going to get cut in all likelihood. So, we can kind of look at the current contracts and make some simple assumptions regarding the best case scenario. And this is based on not having a hard cap. The CBA could actually wind up a lot worse with no MLE, etc. But let's just assume for the time being that we have the MLE and the same general salary structure at a much lower scale. Let's assume $58 million salary cap and $5.8 mill or so MLE. Here's the list of teams under $58 million salary next season currently: Cleveland 48 Denver 43 (if they don't pick up Billups' option) Detroit 48 Golden State 49 Indiana 34 Clippers 50 Memphis 40 Milwaukee 47 Minnesota 41 New Jersey 36 New Orleans 51 New York 42 Oklahoma City 39 Philadelphia 53 Phoenix 48 Portland 50 Sacramento 27 Toronto 45 Utah 54 Washington 47 Now, tell me......which of those teams that has more than $5.8 million to pay Yao more than the MLE is going to offer Yao more than the MLE and that Yao is going to be interested in signing a contract with?????? The answer is NONE. Yao wants to win. He wants to contend. A championship means more money to him than an extra million or so on his salary. The only team on this list that has a realistic shot at contending next season is New York if they make a big trade and land another superstar. Oklahoma City looks tempting but that's a crap shoot. Do you think OKCity is going to offer Yao MLE or greater money for 3 seasons?????? I don't. So, now you go to the over the cap teams, which I think is the more realistic possibility of those type teams taking a gamble on Yao. Possibly Miami, LA, Chicago. That's where it gets interesting. The over the cap teams who are contending. That is the players in the market for Yao. IT MAKES ZERO SENSE FOR YAO TO SIGN A CONTRACT WITH A NON-CONTENDER. So, if you accept the fact that it makes zero sense for Yao to sign with a non-contender, then where does it make the most sense for Yao to sign and where is Yao going to want to sign...............even if he is traded??????? He will re-sign with Houston as long as we are contending.
i thought we were looking for a defensive big. i like wallace, but we already have a defensive 3 with limited offense. i`m thinking more along the lines of Ben Wallace. He has a short contract and is payed relatively cheap. he could come in and play 30 minutes for us and give us more rebounding and defense. but Varejao would be the ideal.
We have a thread: "Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2010-11" http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=190437 Making extra threads with trade proposals are useless.
Teams will overpay for Yao because they know that the minute he signs with them, that #11 jersey is going to sell like it's the best thing since sliced bread. May he play 1min or a full season, as long as he gets a jersey and shows his head on there website.
You forgot about Joe Smith? The under the table negotiations cost Minny 3 1st rd picks and mchale got a heavy fine.
No, I didn't forget about Joe Smith. They talk and discuss all the time and it's not tampering. What is considered salary cap tampering is signing a contract and playing at an artificially low rate because you have been promised X dollars after you play at the artificial low rate. It is not tampering to tell a player that is currently under contract that you are willing to give him X dollars in the form of an extension for Y years. And it is also not tampering to let a player know that you could trade him as an expiring and still sign him to the same value contract after the season when he is a free agent. You are just reminding him of his options and letting him know that you want him. This can be offered up in such a way that Yao says, "Trade me for the betterment of the team and I will re-sign with you in the offseason." A player can say that. They can express what they would prefer. And I'm sure this is exactly the relationship that the Rox have with Yao.
Morey has to be considered the Sun Tzu of the NBA. He can take a weakness (Yao's injury status) and turn it into a strength. Always thinking out of the box. Here are some Sun Tzu qoutes I think apply to Morey. All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. -Sun Tzu- He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious. -Sun Tzu- The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. -Sun Tzu-
Why do they have to make these concessions with Yao? Why is there a carrot of some kind?They can just trade him like they trade any other player without saying we will bring you back next year.
It would be a great move to bring back a healthy Yao at a discounted price espacially if we made team strong enough to compete without Yao so he could come back when strong and ready.
You're right. But perhaps they have a deep respect and admiration of Yao, and perhaps they realize the importance of the Chinese market to the Rockets and Les, and they want to do it different.
