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Rocket training staff ???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by icewill36, Dec 16, 2010.

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  1. BetterThanEver

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    You are thinking of Dr. Michael Clark(CEO) and the NASM(National Academy of Sports Medicine). He has been working with them about 7-8 years. The Suns had some good success with the NASM. They were able to drop the number of treatments by over 60%.

    http://www.nasm.org/1/about_nasm/NASM_Timeline/
     
  2. RV6

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    so you're telling me that the suns are the only team in a 30 team pro league that knows what they're doing and how to prevent injuries? All of the other teams are too stupid or incompetent to get a better medical and training staff?. It couldn't be that they are the exception due to a mix of a solid staff, less stiff and injury prone players, players who take good care of themselves during the offseason, luck, and a style of play that's not very physical because it's all about ball movement, creating space, and getting open shots?

    Out of the 30 teams, how many players made the cut off mark you placed for them?

    3 teams had 8 players
    3 teams had 7 players
    0 teams had 6 players
    6 teams had 5 players
    9 teams had 4 players
    5 teams had 3 players
    2 teams had 2 players
    2 teams had 1 player

    As you can see, most teams had 4 of them, followed by 5, and the top 3 is completed by the teams having 3 players.

    The rockets had 3 players. Is that bad, below the norm? Sure, but that's with their 2 best players out. One for the whole season. That's two rotation players who are usually the ones who have the only shot at playing over those 75 games. How many teams went through that?

    Where would Houston rank if just one of them wasn't so injury prone? If landry would have stayed and conitinued playing in most of his games? It would probably be where most of the teams are, or just better than that. Also count the fact that Budinger missed the cut just by one game and they could have ended up with 6 players, which would be ranked 7 of 30 teams.

    Basically you picked the worse season to use as an example...not only did it include 2 of the most injury prone players ever, but it was when we lost one rotation player due to a trade in the middle of the season. Things are changing now that we got rid of tmac and once yao is gone it'll be more apparent.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    Maybe if you would stop addressing me when I am not even talking to you I wouldnt have to even address you back you think? Why not just take your own advice you just suggessted me taking and not respond if you are gonna be rude? i wasnt talking to you again and you yet again you grabbed the opportunity to bash me once AGAIN. :rolleyes: Next time just shut up unless your commenting by response to me with a valid post or if I adress you.
     
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    RV6 is the biggest know it all on this site anyways. Disputing everyones claims as if he knows every subject.You follow everyone's post that are against what you dont like and then post away at them with a constant barrage of mess you constantly get made to look like a fool on over and over.
     
  5. MandM's

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    just stating an opinion. you sound like a moron
     
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    and your EXPERIENCE sounds really limited. just because you workout doesn't make you an expert. leave it to the professionals.
     
  7. RV6

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    quit crying, if you can't take it, then don't dish it out, simple as that.
     
  8. stevel

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    It's funny to me how guys can train/lift a little, and all of a sudden they become experts on how everyone, including professional athletes should train.
     
  9. cheke64

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    Me? I go to the gym 3 days(1-3hrs) week and play ball 2-3 a week for the past 6 years. Not to mention I go to school and work.
     
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    That's great, I respect your dedication and the fact that you are trying to learn.

    I've been a trainer for 16yrs, I graduated with honors with a degree in Kinesiology. I have multiple certifications and I have owned 2 training facilities in Houston and San Diego. I have amassed over 30,000 hours of experience training clients, working with 100s of clients.

    Not matter what you think you know there's always someone that knows more and you can always learn something.

    BTW, you'll make faster gains splitting your training sessions up versus using training session that last for over an hour.

    Peace
     
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    My total hours is mixed with training/basketball. I normally spend about 30 minutes strength training. Just cause your a certified trainer doesnt make you the best expert, as ive witnessed in youtube and in person. I evolve my training through basketball, meaning I trained specifically for speed/explosion. Ive learned through my mistakes and experiences. I suffered a knee injury by listening to the gurus. I was out half a year with knee problem. I rehabbed my ownself and in the process I gained about 80lbs of mass. Im 6'2 246lbs 17% bodyfat (holidays).

    Maybe your a great trainer but if you didnt see anything wrong in yao's video maybe you should re-evaluate yourself.


    :)
     
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    I am athlete as well, I have been a competitive beach volleyball player since I was 18 (I'm 37 now) My main focus in training is power as power is key in pretty much every popular sport. I know what you mean about trainers, I have seen more terrible trainers than I have seen good ones. I'm far from the typical trainer. I never said I didn't see things wrong with the video (though I got bored and didn't watch the whole thing), but some of the responses were in this thread were silly. Here's the thing, you have to why they were doing what their doing to say if it's right or wrong. Your comments were deleted what did you see wrong with it? As I said I didn't watch the whole things as it was boring, I saw issuse with most of his core exercises, some were good exercises, some were good exercises done poorly (the TGU) and some were bad choices (the russian twists)
     
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    Well, they have this guy named Arnie Kander that can supposedly do wonders with injury prone players. If T-Mac can play 75+games, or should we lower it to your standard 70+ games, maybe the Rockets might want to get our training staff some additional help and find out what Arnie is doing.
     
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    You still havent shut up yet? LOL! Sounds like your crying. :grin: You just cant stop posting against every single person can you?
     
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    Yeah, maybe he can carry the players back and forth on fast breaks or place trampolines under them when they jump :confused:

    Seriously though...im still not sure what prevention you want on the court.....
     
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    Good luck with your expert advice over the internet on something you know nothing about yourself. Your professionals have taken care of you. Enjoy Yao and Tmacs abilities. Uber Aaron Brooks for the entire season says hi... Enjoy the next one this season coming.
     
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    I find it funny that despite that knowledge of "professionals" the athletes in these other training programs end up in better shape than your basketball stars who seem like they never lifted weights with their upper bodies before in thier lives.
    Yet so called "professionals" trained them professionally? Not only that? That these athletes like Yao are not injured in their upper body region yet still seem undertrained and use the improper training techniques and movements of lifting with their arms and upper buidy areas as if they never lifted before.
     
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    If I wanted to take it a bit further??? Why cant Yao properly perform his curls a simple mechanic of lifting? Why does he not have proper form? Is his arm injured? Was his upper body injured? You didnt keep his upper body in shape despite it not being injured? He doesnt know or is just learning these techniques of concentrating on the actual arm movements to make the proper repititions count? He doesnt know about form but his injury isnt related to his upper body? They dont train that before he got injured or just started? If they just started why isnt he being told about proper form in every single lift? Then if that? Why wasnt this done before he got injured as a point in all his workouts to strengthen the body. The experts must know those reps are pretty much useless without proper form. So when you come back and explain to me professionally why? Then talk to me why this was omitted and what makes you more an expert over me for totally missing that one most important aspect of ALLL weight lifters no matter what they are training for.
     
  19. stevel

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    Look, here's the thing, certain injuries can be prevented through proper training: strained muscles, back issues, tendonitis ect.. can be alleviated and prevented if the athlete is trained properly. I will say though that certain back injuries will happen even if everything is done properly. For example, if you land awkwardly there's not much you can do about this.

    Certain injuries, ankle sprains, bone bruises, knee ligament injuries ect..are difficult if not impossible to prevent. If 2 big guys bang knees, a bone bruise can occur, if a guys lands on another guys foot and badly twists an ankle a sprain will occur, and if an athletes knee gets twisted or hit the right way a knee ligament injury is likely to happen. You cannot account for the fact that certain joints aren't supposed to move in certain ways and when they do injuries happen.

    You can get muscles stronger, you can improve mobility, and correct muscle imbalances and all these things can help but certain things are going to happen. Brooks last ankle injury is a perfect example, he jumped high into the air and came down on Manu's foot, I don't care who the trainer is or what he's been doing, an ankle injury is very likely in that instance.
     
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    You are correct on Brooks injury. That one couldnt be prevented. He is a little guy not training to get bigger as I understand. Judging by the way he looks physically. Ankle injuries and sprains just happen.
     

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