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Rocket training staff ???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by icewill36, Dec 16, 2010.

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  1. RV6

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    I didnt say you agreed with it. I said you probably saw it and assumed the team's trainers did the same thing and they don't.

    He's working on his triple extension on those snatches. Extension of the ankle, knee and hip. It's not about lifting heavy or building the leg, but rather getting it firing properly. The traditional squat isn't great for such a tall person. It's why shorter limbs are better for bench pressing and squatting. There's less distance to move the weight. More distance makes it more difficult.

    When you bench heavy you transfer the weight down your body and to your feet. It's your anchor. Either way, not sure the bench is large enough for yao, which is why he does dumbbell presses.

    What exactly is he doing wrong throughout the video?
     
  2. RV6

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    I actually HAVE a 4 yr kinesiology degree from the health and human performance program at UH central. I'd say that's more hands on and classroom training that you're going to get from a course in the military. You're not making any sense talking about strengthening his muscle to prevent the break. If it was that simple to prevent any injury, then top olympic athletes wouldn't get injured.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    Let me put it this way RV6. Leg lifts are easy basic aerobic warmups and stretches. No matter how you do them forward or backwards. The tiny calf presses he does with the amount of tiny weight? Was as useless as if he piled on more than his calfs and ankles could take to rehab. The weak sauce tiny barbells for rehab on his non injured arms have nothing to do with his legs but also are warmup weights for his uninjured arms. His form isnt being watched on some lifts and strictly followed through to a perfect motion. He is sloppy in his form of all movements as if he NEVER lifted weights but only his leg was injured. His core workout used no leg lifts from a hanging arm strap or ball for motion. He didnt properly stretch as in going through toe touches or calf stretches before he does calf machine itself.
     
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    slamming his feet isnt neccessary for hang snatches (specially foot injury). Who does sit ups with their knees lock? Big no no. Hitting the dumbells together to make that clanking noise is terrible and annoying. It transfers force to the joints (not good) and takes the tension away from the muscle.Im tired rv6, ill argue with you tomorrow if im not busy.
     
  5. thetatomatis

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    No it is not. Your class is about as useless a class as me joining kickboxing classes at college. The actual using of the science of lifting is way more important through trial and error and experience than a person who took some classes to do nothing with that knowledge. Me actually training with professional military personnel through years of applied learning means more than your classes. Knowing what actually works is better than saying you do. Nutrion is not an exact science and neither is weight training or lifting. For each individual it takes years of knowledge to build a great body through what they apply from learning from others. Then refining those techniques to what works. Then changing it up to keep the body guessing and not start to regress from your muscles becoming to familiar t your personal workouts. Then planned rest to make the muscles optimally gain strength and recovery. Then eating right to provide the right amount of protein to feed the muscles to grow for the amount of bulk you want. Then dieting to provide the amount of ripped look you want to achieve minus carbs or minus excess empty calories. Then using aerobics to take off the excess weight using weights while running to build strength or explosion or even using trash bags or sweets to run even in hot weather. Alot of different things can go into lifting and what you choose to get healthy and look like.
     
  6. BetterThanEver

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    I was going by your comment previously that it happened during the game.

     
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    It was Reebok.
     
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    It was initially diagnosed as bilateral quadriceps tendinitis, that's why they talked rehab was the right treatment. It was only after an examination by a specialist in Colorado in January, that the quadriceps tear was discovered.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5520511.html

     
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    That would make it easier for our players to box out.lulz. :grin:
     
  10. aurocketfan

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    maybe Mac and Yao are injury prone..but stop overrating our trainers...they do suck!
     
  11. phantoman

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    i hear the Suns have a great medical and training staff. They were able to get shaq to play well and all his muscles firing. They are doing a great job with G.Hill and S.Nash who are all pretty late in their careers.

    We should get some of their medical staff or do so something simliar to their program.
     
  12. Angkor Wat

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    How do you go from sprain to a stress fracture?
     
  13. glimmertwins

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    Hill I can see, but Nash is completely on his own and would likely preform well without the Suns staff - he's a freak both in his ability to perform well into his years and his diet and workout preparation. I read he has some ultra strict diet that no doubt helps him to continue to perform at the level he is at...

    http://www.nba.com/suns/news/feature_nashdiet_090709.html
     
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    you sound like a big....stupid....dumb ass. i'll bet you wear your little panties and get all oiled up and flex in a mirror don't you.

    get rid of your camo and go back to school if you want to train athletes wanna be.
     
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    I don't remember Rockets medical staff made anybody healthy again in Yao era. Starting with Sura, then Tmac, then Yao. It seems rehab never works.
     
  16. A Kar

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    The Rockets medical staff and trainers are clearly all hacks. They have not followed one proper thing in their professions as it regarded Yao. The worst of all is the doctor that did Yao's surgery on the stress fracture in his foot.

    That surgery should never be performed under that circumstance. The guy is a very bad doctor, to say the very least.
     
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    that was a pretty interesting article, Nice find. I dont think yao diets... especialy with his Wings and beer comment.. lol
     
  18. RV6

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    He didn't have a herniated disk at that point. He suffered a back injury, but i guess he just tweaked it, maybe had some soreness. The disk wasn't discovered until later one when he said he felt stabbing pain during practice, they immediately checked him and saw the herniated disk.


    Which could have been caused by the rehab itself and not been there since the beginning. Rehab can be a gamble at times. It doesnt mean it was the wrong route to take or done incorrectly. The tear could have happened during the rehab, but while he was out on his own living his life and not under the supervision or direction of a trainer.

    Doctors sometimes go with a more conservative treament before exploring other options or possibilities. That's probably what happened here, but i don't believe it's unusual or something only the Rockets do.


    Battier, lowry, ariza, budinger, martin....all have been injured and came back after to play without pain or discomfort within the last year.


    What was the circumstance? It was the same as with Big z...
     
  19. RV6

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    So my degree is worthless, but you're an expert after being in the military? :rolleyes:

    You're suggesting people workout in "trash bags and sweats". You've got to be kidding me. Ever heard of dehydration? Heat stroke? In the military there going to push you til you puke. It's not the same out here in the outside world. Not everyone is training for combat or has had a physical and is being supervised most of the day. You need to have knowledge in how to handle obese, injured, and/or older people.

    How old are you by the way? 40?
     
  20. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Can't you tell from the thread title alone, logic does not fly in here. This thread only serves as a place to voice your anger with someone who had nothing to do with our current state.

    I can see how a lot of Rocket fans feel here, but at the same token, without some sort of medical degree this is all mindless conjecture. In the end, we all sort of knew that Yao was at risk of never being 100% again. The Woj and Yahoo! did a piece on how this could be the end of Yao's career almost 6 months ago. We've known for a while the guy is injured and is not healing right. There has always been risks. Now that we are getting the wrong side of a clear gamble, fans are mad. To blame Kieth Jones and company would be ignorant, and yet, for some reason this thread presses on.
     

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