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Halloween. A fun time or a celebration for the devil?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Another Brother, Oct 7, 2002.

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  1. Another Brother

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    Some guy was telling me that his kid's didn't trick or treat because he didn't believe in celebrating the "devil's day."
    I've heard this more than a few times. My kids trick and treat but are dressed as either cartoon characters or ugly friends of mine.

    Is the holiday's evil connotation prevalent enough not to participate in the activities?
     
  2. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    Next to Christmas, Halloween is the most commercialized celebration in the United States and Canada. This ancient festival originated far from North America however, and centuries before the first European set foot on the continent.
    The ancient Druids who inhabited what we now call Great Britain placed great importance on the passing of one season to the next, holding "Fire Festivals" which were celebrated for three days (two days on either side of the day itself).

    One of these festivals was called Samhain (pronounced Sha-Von) and it took place on October 31 through to November 1. During this period, it was believed that the boundaries between our world and the world of the dead were weakened, allowing spirits of the recently dead to cross over and possess the living.

    In order to make themselves and their homes less inviting to these wayward spirits, the ancient Celts would douse all their fires. There was also a secondary purpose to this, after extinguishing all their fires, they would re-light them from a common source, the Druidic fire that was kept burning at Usinach, in the Middle of Ireland.

    Samhain was considered to be a gateway not only from the land of the dead to the land of the living, but also between Summer and Fall/Winter. For the Druids, this was the last gasp of summer (it was also the Celtic New Year), so therefore they made sure it went out with a bang before they had to button down for the winter ahead.

    They would dress up in bizarre costumes and parade through their villages causing destruction in order to scare off any recently departed souls who might be prowling for bodies to inhabit, in addition to burning animals and other offerings to the Druidic deities. It is also a popular belief that they would burn people who they believed to be possessed, but this has largely been debunked as myth.

    This yearly festival was adopted by the Roman invaders, who helped to propagate it throughout the rest of the world (and at that time, the Roman Empire was the world). The word "Halloween" itself actually comes from a contraction of All Hallows Eve, or All Saint's Day (November 1), which is a Catholic day of observance in honour of saints.

    This tradition was later brought to the North American continent by Irish immigrants who were escaping the Potato Famine in their homeland. In addition to the festival itself, the immigrants brought several customs with them, including one of the symbols most commonly associated with Halloween -- the Jack 'O Lantern.

    According to Irish folklore, there once lived a man named Jack who was known for being a drunk and a prankster. One night Jack tricked the devil into climbing a tree, and quickly carved an image of a cross on the trunk, trapping the devil. Jack then made him promise that, in exchange for letting him out of the tree, the Devil would never tempt him to sin again. He reluctantly agreed, but was able to exact his revenge upon Jack's death. Because of his mischevious ways in life, Jack was barred from entering heaven and because of his earlier trick, he was also barred from hell. So he was doomed to wander the earth until the end of time, with only a single ember (carried in a hollowed out turnip) to warm him and light his way.

    In Ireland, they originally also used turnips for their "Jack Lanterns", but upon arriving in the new world, they discovered that pumpkins were abundant and easier to carve out.
     
  3. X-PAC

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    Like Pole said I just think Halloween has been marketed to the point that its harmless. Its not like kids are in the streets setting fires and chanting Satan's word. Kids are out getting free candy and having fun.
     
  4. mrpaige

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    Maybe your kids aren't. :)
     
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    lol. Well if I had kids that most likely would be the case.
     
  6. A-Train

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    Don't let those history books fool you. Haloween was created by those evil dentists...
     
  7. off_welfare

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    He is right.. it is the DEVIL'S day..... but I have never seen a kid's face light up more than when he/she gets to go to a door and say "trick or treat" just to get some candy. Kids only know what is taught to them. Tell them Halloween is not really a "holiday" but a fun day to go out and get spoooooooked and get free candy!!!!! :p I honestly remeber LOVING it when I was little.... I never knew it was the DEVIL'S day til I got older... by then I don't think I would have been cute in a scooby doo costume at 6'1 lol LET THEM HAVE FUN!!!!! :)
     
  8. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    where in the hell did you people come up with this "devil's day" BS?

    Who made that up?
     
  9. VooDooPope

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    Halloween is an evil day and brings out the evil in people.

    Example:

    I take my 2year old daugher trick or treating

    We get home

    She falls asleep

    I steal the good candy

    Stealing candy from a baby is evil

    This only happens on Halloween so it must be an evil day. :D


    {note: She doesn't eat candy anyway or I wouldn't eat the good stuff. I think I have the only 2 year old in the world who doesn't like sweets. We tossed out the cheep candy after a week}
     
  10. rockHEAD

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    c'mon, you mean to tell me that i am the only one that burns the 8' pentagram in my backyard, dusts off the goats head skull and fills my chalice with blood while sacrificing a lamb and chanting the devils incantation?

    :confused:
     
  11. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    rockHEAD, you will be welcomed with open arms here in California, (to hear some people describe it).
     
  13. A-Train

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    Now I know what to do the next time a Jehova's witness stops by...
     
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    You know, if you weren't such a rabid anti-dentite maybe your spelling would improve. ;)
     
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    Clearly and undebatably, Haloween is a the work of Satan... ;)
     
  16. drapg

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    Halloween is evil! Thats why I turn off my lights, close the blinds, and watch TV every 31st of October. When kids knock at my door, I walk up to the door and snore really loudly so they think I'm asleep.

    i ain't givin' away my hard earned candy to no one! Ooh, it took so much effort to put on a sheet with some eyeholes poked out as you pretend to be a ghost...

    Where's my candy? Who's giving me free food? No one, that's who!

    :D
     
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    Do Reva & company approve of the lamb sacrifice?

    As for Halloween being the "devil's day," well, that's a big load of hooey.
     
  18. A-Train

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    Halloween is a holiday to celebrate....oh, I don't know....could it be a holiday for celebrating.....

    SATAN?!?!?!?!?
     
  19. rockHEAD

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    as long as they can get a taste! :p
     
  20. Another Brother

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    Clearly satan, he's doing the sign from "THE RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD"
     

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