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[Video] Kevin Martin scores 32 in first half vs. Cavs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. co-nan

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    Martin always has a good efficiency.
     
  2. Rocketsmith

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    Martin is red hot in the first quarter, why does Adelman sit him to start the 2nd quarter? I watched too many games where RA is more concerned about sticking with his "rotation" than riding the hot hand. A lot of times, once the hot player sits, he cools off. Anybody else notice this?
     
  3. Dave_78

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    Yes, because he leaves all his scoring up to a "third party" so even though free throws still count as points somehow they don't. Also, getting the other team into foul trouble and his team in the bonus is detrimental to the team somehow.

    It's all fool's gold I tell you!
     
  4. kovacs242

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    Martin is flopping too much, Lowry can't shoot the ball, and AB would've scored 50 the first quarter alone.

    I have a solution: we should burn Martin and Lowry on a pyre so that they cease their flopping cancerness and have Brooks take 50 shots a game. He is a straightforward guy, a man of action, not some cowardly flopper.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Shhh...the reverse jinx is working.
     
  6. Grimm920

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    This guys lights up the Cavs for 40 points and some on Clutchfans still hate him... probably the skip and franchise fans...
     
  7. Dave_78

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    I'm worried that Scola, Battier and Lowry will see Martin score 32 points in one half so they will try to emulate him and ruin the Rockets offense. :(
     
  8. kovacs242

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    You forgot to point out the obvious truth that the biggest locker room cancer is Adelman. Martin is Adelman's guy, Adelman should burn too! Adelman just doesn't know anything about basketball. He is a loser and hell I'd be a better coach. They (I mean all of them people) just don't see it.
     
  9. BEAT LA

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    The truth is people don't like Martin because he doesn't sell tickets. By that I mean they don't care if their team wins. They care more about how their team wins. If the Rockets win and all Martin did was make free throws and open 3's then it's a bad win. If the Rockets win and Brooks makes contested jumpers and drives it in over bigger defenders it's a good game.

    This is the truth and some of you will ever admit it. Do you think Brooks can score 32 in a half with good defense?
     
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    haha pwned those fools

    PeAcE
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    Is Clutch's highlight video fool's gold?
     
  12. CXbby

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    I am not implying that there was any "high leverage" situations in the fourth quarter last night. I am saying that the reason there wasn't in large part was due to Martin's stellar play.

    So let's say he were to replicate his performance against a good team. The results are a close game where the outcome is in the balance, and once again he fails to produce in the fourth quarter. Is that "unacceptable" even though without his performance in the first 3 quarters the game we wouldn't have been close in the first place? That we would be down 20 by the last 5 minutes of the game.

    How can one instance he is being praised, where the other it is "unacceptable", when he is doing the same things in both?
     
  13. LongTimeFan

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    This fact pattern is eerily similar to the McGrady era -- and McGrady was blamed for not being able to close teams out.
     
  14. CXbby

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    True, although with Mcgrady's contract it was expected for him to not only get us to the "high leverage" situations but to get us THROUGH the "high leverage" situations. So some of the flack was deserved as that is the job description of a "superstar".

    Martin on the other hand is paid roughly half of Tmac's salary. In which case I'm not sure why anyone would hold him to that standard.
     
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  15. Severe Rockets Fan

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    Nice. Yeah, Martin is a bit of a softy, but he's quietly having one of the best seasons of his career thus far. Things should get interesting with Brooks coming back soon. And if Yao comes back healthy...meh, nevermind...
     
  16. LongTimeFan

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    I don't really like the idea of paying $11M for a three quarter role player. Martin is great at drawing fouls, but he struggles at creating his own shot in the clutch. He also doesn't contribute in other ways besides shooting/drawing fouls.. that's a lot of money for a one-dimensional scorer that doesn't help you when the game is on the line.
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    It is a lot of money for an Offense-Only guy, but what else are you realistically gonna do with $11 million if you are not paying Martin?


    Of course, the best thing would be to use the $11 mil to pay a part of the salary of, say, Chris Paul, but getting a "superstar" requires some degree of luck, which the Rockets just haven't had of late.
     
  18. CXbby

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    My whole argument in this thread is that he helps you get to the point where "the game is on the line". I agree that he struggles after that point due to his inability to create his own shot. However I don't think we can discredit his ability to 1. get us back into a game 2. keep us in a game 3. win a game in the first 3 quarters when the defenses still cannot zone in on him yet.
     
  19. LongTimeFan

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    Yeah, I know I'm not exactly putting out any better alternatives. If you deal him, you're most likely rebuilding completely. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Martin's name pop up in trade rumors in a couple months with how well Courtney Lee has been playing lately.
     
  20. solid

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    There are not too many players in the league who can score 40 any given night. Martin is one of them. That's special. He might be one-dimensional, but most teams will take the points. He is an exceptional offensive player on most nights and when he gets hot, who knows.
     

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