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[not so] Wild Idea: Patrick Patterson at the three?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by roslolian, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    I'm not talking about replacing Shane (shane's our starting sf, I'm proposing making PP the backup SF), I'm talking about benching C-bud and replacing him with PP. Right now the conventional wisdom is probably:

    1) Play Lee at the three, give JT some PT
    2) Start playing JJ

    Option 1 is ok, but my problem here is Courtney Lee extremely effective at the 2 position, at 6'7 he can really bother the 2's out there. At the 3 spot though Lee becomes just another forward. Plus, I'm not sold on JT, and in fact I'd rather just keep the current rotation and hope C-bud gets out of his slump rather than playing JT.

    Option 2 would be ok, except for the fact that JJ keeps making stupid plays on the court. As in NYchick facepalm bad: missed layups, turnovers, you name it JJ can screw it up on offense.

    My point is that PP at the three gives us a "JJ" like defender, except I would trust PP a hell of a whole lot more than JJ. Most guys seem to have PP pegged as a back-to-basket pf, but like I said his game is even more suited to the perimeter than Carl Landry, he can hit deep 2s and also a has a 3 pt shot, even if its broken at the moment. Yeah D-league stats are garbage, but for 15 minutes a night I'm sure PP can be productive on the court.

    RA offense is extremely dependent on what the players want to do. As long as PP can hit the open elbow jumper with some consistency (which he can do), he can play the three spot with no problem. Regarding his development, yes it would be better if PP can get PT at the 4. But he can't, and beggars can't be choosers. At least if he got some PT at the 3 he can work on refining his jumper even more, and might give us that stretch 4 some posters here always wanted.
     
  2. jopatmc

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    FWIW, he fell out of the Nets rotation because he is an immature r****d that they were having difficulty getting to be punctual and responding to coaching, not because he couldn't score and generate stats on an NBA floor.
     
  3. flamingdts

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    I'll rather see Patterson at the 3 than Budinger at the 3 to be honest.

    Patterson is a quick, athletic 4 much like Landry, but he also showed some range.

    I want to see Patterson on the floor. Anything beats Budinger, JT and Jeffries on the floor.
     
  4. roslolian

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    Finally somebody who agreed with me. Its amazing people here are ok with Lee playing the point but have a hard time accepting PP would be a decent backup 3.
     
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    Well it's more so the fact that we're running out of options, we want to develop our players but we also don't want to lose games.

    Playing Jeffries will hinder the development of our players. Budinger is heartless and useless out there, and Lee is undersized and is probably best suited coming in for Martin.

    I don't mind Lee playing the 3, since JT could always come in for Martin if we're still up for his development. But at this stage, Patterson deserves more playing time than Bud, and since Bud is already dragging the team down when he's on the court, I don't see how giving his spot up for a more deserving player will make the situation any worse.

    I liked Bud, he really showed some great strides last year. This year it looks like he doesn't even care. I rather Hayes take the 3 spot at this point, at least he cares, plays defence, and doesn't chuck 3 pointers.
     
  6. Dei

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    I'm not closed to the idea. We tried playing Mike Harris at the 3 when he just couldn't cut it as a 4 in this league. Landry, too, to a smaller extent, when they had him work his mid-range J. Eventually, it worked out for him but he's still a liability defensively to this day.

    Patterson's a lot like Harris. Not as severely disadvantaged in terms of height, but, still, a tweener - in all respects. He's bulkier than a swingman, but lighter than a true power forward. He's quick for a post player but slower than a small forward.

    If Patterson could play the 3, great but, I really, really believe he doesn't have more upside at the spot than Budinger. Budinger's a natural swingman, has the body for it, the athleticism, the vertical etc. I'm willing to let him play through it so long as Battier keeps playing well. Budinger's also just 22. Worst thing that could happen is that we sit Budinger, drive his value to the ground, trade him then see him flourish somewhere else.
     
  7. ryano2009

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    Am down
     
  8. don grahamleone

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    I saw Patrick Patterson play for the Vipers. He's going to be special if he gets his head straight about the other things he needs to do. The things he does do well, he does very well. He's a PF. Trust me. Super athletic one at that. The guy can leap for rebounds like you wouldn't believe. His positioning is another story though. I wish I could coach the guy. He seems like he's ready to shine.
     
  9. co-nan

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    I really do not agree with u.
    1) I think RA is somewhat like Phil Jackson, they are both "playoff coach".
    U can see they will make a rapid and relative right decision in the playoff game.
    2) SF is not as bad as u think and I do not think it is a good idea to play patterson as a 3. It is not everyone who can play SF if he can shoot 3.
     

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