[CBS Sports] Nuggets Will Trade Carmelo Before Deadline + Portland May Hold Firesale

rockets934life · Dec 8, 2010

KBerg_CBS If Carmelo Anthony doesn't sign extension with #Nuggets by trade deadline, they have all but decided to trade him, sources tell @CBSSports.

KBerg_CBS Sources say #Nuggets believe Anthony prepared to play out season and become a free agent, which organization almost certainly won't allow.

KBerg_CBS Most attractive package to #Nuggets, sources say, remains the Derrick Favors-centered deal on the table from #Nets since September.

KBerg_CBS Question remains: WIll Melo re-sign with New Jersey? Sources say #Nets brass being assured they're "still in it.

treyk3 · Dec 8, 2010

This is good news, I think we have a pretty attractive offer if we so decide to get in the mix.

rockets934life · Dec 8, 2010

After weeks of speculation and despite a strong start by the Nuggets, Carmelo Anthony's last days in Denver may finally have arrived.

The Nuggets have all but decided to trade Anthony if he does not sign an extension with the team by the trade deadline, and Denver's management team believes Anthony is fully prepared to play out the season and become a free agent, multiple sources told CBSSports.com.

The Nuggets’ strong start, coupled with George Karl’s inspirational return from cancer treatment and positive discussions about a contract extension for the soon-to-be-1,000-win coach, have the organization feeling they've done everything possible to persuade Anthony to stay. But according to people with knowledge of the team’s strategy, if Anthony doesn’t agree to sign the three-year, $65 million extension by the Feb. 24 trade deadline, the wheels are all but certain to be put in motion to part ways with the three-time All-Star rather than lose him as a free agent and get nothing in return.

According to people in contact with the Nuggets’ management team, there is far more clarity today about what the team is seeking in a potential Anthony trade than there was in September, when new GM Masai Ujiri was thrust into the tempest in his initial days and weeks on the job. Executives believe the Nuggets have decided they would like to receive the best possible package of young players and are not interested in stopgap options that would hamper their flexibility. Acquiring a high-priced veteran player -- such as Andre Iguodala, whose talent the Nuggets value but not his contract -- would only hurt the team’s ability to build around youth while maintaining payroll flexibility into the uncertainty of a new collective bargaining agreement.

The Nets’ package of 2010 No. 4 pick Derrick Favors, guard Devin Harris, the expiring contract of Kris Humphries and two first-round picks remains the most attractive option to the Nuggets, sources say. Additional trade partners such as Charlotte and Utah are not eager to get involved in the discussions again, but wouldn’t necessarily be needed this time.

The wild card remains Anthony’s desire to sign an extension with the Nets, who obviously would not be willing to offer the same package without such a guarantee. While rival executives continue to doubt that Anthony would be willing to spend the next season-and-a-half in Newark, N.J., sources who have been in close contact with the power brokers in Anthony’s camp -- William Wesley and Leon Rose -- say the Nets remain an option for Anthony.

Anthony and the Nuggets will play Sunday at Madison Square Garden against the Knicks, which remain his top choice via a trade or free agency -- even though the latter option could cost him millions depending on how successful owners are at imposing salary reductions in the new collective bargaining agreement. Sources say Anthony is so fixated on winding up with the Knicks that Denver management has become convinced that he will tempt fate and the new CBA by playing out the entire season in Denver and signing with the Knicks as a free agent on July 1 – or after the lockout. The only way that scenario could be positive for Denver would be in a sign-and-trade deal. But such an arrangement – like the pennies-on-the-dollar deals that sent LeBron James and Chris Bosh to Miami – would not be nearly as beneficial as what the Nets are offering now.

The Knicks, playing their best basketball in years with free-agent acquisition Amar’e Stoudemire, have believed that their best chance of landing Melo was for the process to play out slowly – and they’ve gotten their wish so far. But the Nuggets, sources say, are not sold on the young players New York could offer such as Anthony Randolph, Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler. Point guard Raymond Felton -- who has been on an offensive tear since gaining chemistry with Stoudemire and who becomes trade-eligible on Dec. 15 -- also does not interest the Nuggets, who view him as a halfcourt player who wouldn't fit their style.

Nuggets officials are said to be coming around to the idea that Harris could play in the backcourt with Chauncey Billups, who often played shooting guard this past summer with Team USA. But if Anthony is traded, sources say management also wants to show Billups -- who came to the Nuggets not just to come home, but to win -- the proper respect by engaging him in conversations about whether he'd prefer to be traded.

Other than hoping to persuade Anthony to sign the extension and stay in Denver, the biggest variable for the Nuggets is the sliding scale of quality on the Nets’ own first-round pick they’d convey in the trade. (They also would include Golden State’s protected 2012 first-rounder). The sooner the Nuggets trade Melo to New Jersey, the better the Nets get and the worse the pick gets. But that is a matter of timing and patience. As far as willingness to deal, it appears that the Nuggets are finally open for business.

And so are we in the rest of this week’s Post-Ups:

• With the Trail Blazers' obvious struggles and the health challenges (that's putting it mildly) of Greg Oden and Brandon Roy, two people with knowledge of the team's strategy told CBSSports.com that Portland management is contemplating trading older players and going young. The obvious targets for such a purge would be Marcus Camby (36), Andre Miller (34), and Joel Pryzbilla (31). Roy isn’t old, but his knees are -- though one of the sources said Portland would find no takers for the five years and $82.3 million remaining on Roy's contract, given the state of his meniscus-less knees. Pryzbilla ($7.4 million expiring contract) and Miller (whose $7.8 million salary in 2011-12 is fully non-guaranteed) are eminently moveable. Another candidate to be dealt, though not because of age or health, is Rudy Fernandez, who has wanted out of Portland for some time. Sources caution that the Blazers have engaged in only internal conversations about this strategy, and it is contingent upon the team (10-11) continuing to struggle. But the writing certainly is on the wall for major changes in Portland.

• Multiple NBA team executives told CBSSports.com this week they believe a significant number of college underclassmen will stay in school rather than risk losing a year of development (and pay) in a lockout. College coaches making the pitch to underclassman to stay in school will have more leverage than ever before. “They’ll have the hammer,” one exec said. “To lose a year of development at that stage of your career, that’s huge.” This could have a dramatic impact on a team like No. 4 Kansas, which in an ordinary year would have as many as three first-round picks: freshman Josh Selby (serving a nine-game NCAA suspension for accepting improper benefits); and juniors Marcus Morris and Tyshawn Taylor. Sophomore Thomas Robinson also impressed NBA execs scouting the Jimmy V Classic Tuesday night at Madison Square Garden.

• Speaking of Madison Square Garden, rival execs agree that New York would be a logical landing spot for Andre Iguodala, and they believe the Sixers will be more than open to discussing trades for the dynamic but high-priced swingman as the Feb. 24 deadline approaches. The Knicks, one of the few teams in a position to absorb salary in the uncertain labor environment, also would be looking for an attractive piece to pair with Stoudemire in the event the Nuggets follow through with an Anthony trade prior to the deadline. Team president Donnie Walsh would have to decide if, short of Anthony, Iguodala is the best option that will be available to him between now and 2011 free agency -- if and when that happens. And also, if Iguodala is worth giving up the cap flexibility he's toiled three years to create. Pricetag notwithstanding -- the 26-year-old is due $56.5 million over the next four years -- Iguodala would be an excellent fit for Mike D'Antoni's high-octane offense and would instantly become the best defender on the roster by a mile.

• With details of the National Basketball Players Association's July proposal finally becoming fully public Wednesday, the question of how prepared the union is for a lockout is naturally going to come up. According to sources familiar with the union's financial documents, the NBPA currently has just shy of $100 million in liquid assets in its war chest in the event of a lockout. The funds have been accumulated largely through players agreeing to put aside licensing money they receive from the league -- something they are doing again this season to the tune of about $30 million. If you add non-liquid assets, such as property, the union will have about $175 million on hand. This is a lot of money to you and me, but not to 450 NBA players. Consider that the players' salaries (without benefits) last season totaled about $2.3 billion -- with a "b." Now consider that players are paid 12 times during the season -- twice a month for six months. That means the NBPA's total war chest is enough to cover the players' first paychecks during a lockout in the 2011-12 season.

• With trade discussions typically heating up around the 20-game mark -- and also around Dec. 15, when summer free agents become trade-eligible -- execs league-wide are curious to learn what sort of trade climate will exist in light of the labor uncertainty. Many predict that teams that have typically been willing to take on salary between December and the trade deadline (Feb. 24) will be less willing (or unwilling) to do so in this environment. Similarly, teams performing below management's internal expectations (Houston, the Clippers, the Blazers) have a tough decision to make. They could try to fix their problems now, but without knowing what the rules will be under the new agreement, they don't know what conditions they’re planning for. Of the aforementioned teams, the Blazers are in the best position to dump salary because of the attractiveness of the contracts they'd be moving. Plus, Miller's value is not only in his contract, but in his ability to push a contending team in need of a steadying point-guard presence over the top. Full disclosure: this is my idea, not anybody else's, but Orlando would be the perfect landing spot for Miller depending on what the Magic would be willing to send back.
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rox4lyf · Dec 8, 2010

Roy or management's decision, whoever it was, to come back premature from his knee injury to play in the playoffs is looking like the worst decision long term.

pippendagimp · Dec 8, 2010

favors sucks

apollo33 · Dec 8, 2010

All of that dont matter because Melo will play out this season with whatever team and sign with knicks with lalallalalala

saleem · Dec 8, 2010

apollo33 said:

All of that dont matter because Melo will play out this season with whatever team and sign with knicks with lalallalalala
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Very good point. There is a strong likelihood of that if the Knicks continue to improve.

k-money · Dec 8, 2010

pippendagimp said:

favors sucks
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oh so you could ball better and be a no. 3 pick?

so portland is at the top for melo? dang, roy and melo. scary team.

Clips/Roxfan · Dec 8, 2010

If Carmelo Anthony really wants to play for the NY Knicks, than he's going to play for the NY Knicks. The Nuggets are losing power with each passing day. All Melo has to say is that he will not sign an extension with the Nets and the Nuggets will be sent reeling. Why would any player want to play in New Jersey? Jordan Farmar would be the starting point guard, and Anthony Morrow and Travis Outlaw would flack the wings. If I was advising Melo, i would tell him to wait it out while gaining more leverage everday.

MrJason · Dec 8, 2010

eh.. I found this more interesting

Speaking of Madison Square Garden, rival execs agree that New York would be a logical landing spot for Andre Iguodala, and they believe the Sixers will be more than open to discussing trades for the dynamic but high-priced swingman as the Feb. 24 deadline approaches. The Knicks, one of the few teams in a position to absorb salary in the uncertain labor environment, also would be looking for an attractive piece to pair with Stoudemire in the event the Nuggets follow through with an Anthony trade prior to the deadline. Team president Donnie Walsh would have to decide if, short of Anthony, Iguodala is the best option that will be available to him between now and 2011 free agency -- if and when that happens. And also, if Iguodala is worth giving up the cap flexibility he's toiled three years to create. Pricetag notwithstanding -- the 26-year-old is due $56.5 million over the next four years -- Iguodala would be an excellent fit for Mike D'Antoni's high-octane offense and would instantly become the best defender on the roster by a mile.
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MrJason · Dec 8, 2010

There's also a little Houston mention..

Similarly, teams performing below management's internal expectations (Houston, the Clippers, the Blazers) have a tough decision to make. They could try to fix their problems now, but without knowing what the rules will be under the new agreement, they don't know what conditions they’re planning for.
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MrJason · Dec 8, 2010

k-money said:

oh so you could ball better and be a no. 3 pick?

so portland is at the top for melo? dang, roy and melo. scary team.
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No, I think you misinterpreted it. The best offer for Melo was Favors.

Roy was a completely different subject. They were saying that Portland will trade the old and keep the young and rebuild because they're two stars are basically too injury prone. Also that Roy probably can't be traded cause the contracts too big for a guy with no meniscus.

gah · Dec 8, 2010

If Melo is all about winning, which we can't be too sure, he would know that the Nets would have one of the worse supporting cast after that trade.

I know it's implied in the article that the Nets aren't stupid enough to make that sort of deal without an extension, but can you imagine if the do and then he walks? That would be a harder blow then Lebron's, although it wouldn't be a backstabbing one.

NJRocket · Dec 8, 2010

treyk3 said:

This is good news, I think we have a pretty attractive offer if we so decide to get in the mix.
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good news if u want a rent-a-player.....he will end up in NY

mikol13 · Dec 8, 2010

At this point, can anyone blame Melo for wanting to play with the Knicks? Crazy to say but the Knicks are actually looking like they can win. If the Knicks land Iguodala through trade and then Melo this summer, look out!

I could see that scenario working out better than landing L. James. Much less ego, chemistry should be good and they would have virtually no holes. The Knicks luck may be changing for the better.

Rockets4279 · Dec 9, 2010

Knicks might be a good team next year watch out.

Rockets4279 · Dec 9, 2010

Oden and Roy might be traded. I can invision both of them being moved together. Rockets were after Roy in that draft, but selected Gay for Memphis.

delta69er · Dec 9, 2010

Rockets4279 said:

Oden and Roy might be traded. I can invision both of them being moved together. Rockets were after Roy in that draft, but selected Gay for Memphis.
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No we were going to select him that night, but Roy was taken 6th and we had the 8th pick. We didn't make the deal for battier until after we couldn't get roy.

Prince · Dec 9, 2010

pippendagimp said:

favors sucks
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Right, by trading deadline, favors will be in the unfavorable list.

Steve_Francis_rules · Dec 9, 2010

If Roy does get traded I hope he ends up in Phoenix. That might be the best way to save his career at this point.

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