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Andre Iguodala

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocketaggie89, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. iconoclastic

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    But that's true for every single player. That's the job of the GM- to maximize the value of his assets of his team and look for trades that improve the team at all times. Saying that they're "attempting to trade" Iguodala gives it the connotation that they've soured on him, which I do not believe is the case.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    If they traded Martin for Iguodala, they would be giving up a bulk of their offense for defense/less offense. Wash.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    They would be getting a LOT better by giving up Martin for Iggy....

    DD
     
  4. sammy

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    Edit: He doesn't get to the FT line and is averaging a whopping 14 ppg. He can't shoot 3's either.

    No way DM gives up Martin in a package for Iggy.
     
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  5. AhmedZakaria

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    Iggy spreads the floor in every direction possible. and he can close out a game. our interior defense isnt as vulnerable with iggy filling up the perimeter and hes a big body 3 he can defend the 4 too. Martin does none of those things except spread the floor a bit. Also Iggy is a better passer and can run the offense. as of now only lowry and sometimes AB can run the offense through out the game. just refer to Iggys USA play.

    Complete package players > high octane scorers
    we have plenty of scorers on our team, were one of the highest scoring teams in the league. so with the above logic...

    Iggy > Martin
     
  6. AhmedZakaria

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    but i also agree that DM wont give up martin. not because of his skills but because adleman has a crush on him and would get mad at DM.
     
  7. coachbadlee

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    As i have said many times before, we need Iguodala so that he can play with Martin.
     
  8. Deckard

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    I agree here. I would be shocked if Morey did it. Of course, he's shocked me before.
     
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  9. Dave_78

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    iggy is 6'6". He's an average sized SG, a slightly undersized SF. He can't play PF to save his life.
     
  10. pbthunder

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    I'm starting to think the Rox might trade Yao at the deadline. If so, and they want AI, they will trade these two for each other, maybe in a three-team deal. I think the Rox would want AI, plus some usable assets, which could be young talent or draft picks, or maybe a player or two with good contracts.
     
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    They would be getting a better player and a better combo if they got a shot at carmello. Iggy just replaces Martin's salary minus 1m. So say the rockets traded martin,patterson,bud and and the rockets 2012 pick for iggy and young. After the season, the rockets still would have only 33m committed to salary next season. They can make a play for carmello, trade lowry or brooks after getting carmello, and see where they are with yao. Iggy in between brooks and anthony as the do it all guy woud be very,very, good if not great. If morey know he needs a superstar and you're trying to bridge the gap, brooks,iggy,anthony makes alot more sense than brooks,martin,anthony. Its about looking forward to the ultimate goal. I personally don't think martin will ever be a player who can really help a team in the playoffs. When the shistle tightens and the play gets physical, he shrinks. Now if all you want are regular season and pretty stats, then he's your guy. Iggy is a better player than martin.
     
  12. Commodore

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    It's easy to make the case for Iggy if you ignore the size of his contract.
     
  13. Ramathorn006

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    The size of his contract is ideal for the player he is. He is not a superstar but an "all star" second tier player. He makes, I believe, 12-15 million each season for the next 3-4 years. The same as Martin. But I believe Iggy is a more well rounded player than Martin so definitely worth the contract.
     
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    I like this idea - Brooks, Iggy, Anthony as your primary building blocks would be terrific start.

    I'm just not sure if Melo would wanna come to Houston to play with Iggy and Brooks when he has a chance to play with Amare.. even though, i think his chance of winning would be greater here.
     
  15. Commodore

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    It seems like every team thinks Iggy is that missing piece glue guy.

    I imagine someone will overpay for him, and it won't be Morey.
     
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    For those who are afraid of Iggy's contract, keep in mind we know who he is. He will still have value if he isnt working out and he can be traded quite easily. This isnt Elton Brand or Baron Davis we are talking about.
     
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    Exactly, plus I think this is an opportune time to acquire Iggy... Philly is not going to compete and we can get him for expirings, young players and/or picks we will not be able to acquire anyone else of Iggy's caliber without giving up proven talent...
     
  18. MrButtocks

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    If he doesn't work out here his value will certainly go down. Guys don't get traded multiple times without a reason.

    EDIT: I think he would work here.
     
  19. larsv8

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    You know what you are getting though.

    He already is playing in a princeton offense, his role would be identical, so should his production.

    The only thing that should change is team success, which would almost assuredly go up.

    I really can't see his value going anywhere but up.
     
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  20. MrButtocks

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    Richard Jefferson was brought to San Antonio to do what he'd always done: score points and hit open threes. Everyone, myself included, thought he would be a great fit. The expectations were very high for that team, unlike the Milwaukee team he was on before. For some reason it took him a year to put it together.

    I like Iggy and think he would work well here, but you never know how a player will mesh. It might take a long time for a player to get adjusted. They might never get adjusted. There are no guarantees.
     

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