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Mavs sign Redd to offer sheet; will Bucks step up?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Shooter1583, Oct 1, 2002.

  1. Shooter1583

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2002/1001/1439562.html

    Dallas signed Redd to an offer sheet, just like what everyone said. Will Milwaukee increase their offer or just let him go because I think they need Redd a whole lot more than Dallas does. Redd will be the sixth man in Milwaukee since Tim Thomas is starting and he'll struggle for minutes on a Dallas roster that is loaded with guards and scorers.
     
  2. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I thought the bigger news was farther down in the article. The Clippers signed Wang to a 3 year offer sheet for 6 million. Will Dallas let Wang walk? Will this clear up some of the Yao problems or make it worse? Stay tuned...
     
  3. Bookit

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    Cuban has already stated that the Mavs will never let Wang go to another team without compensation.
     
  4. RocksMillenium

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    Signing Michael Redd makes no sense, Dallas needs big, physical big men up front. Truthfully I would have traded for Dale Davis before signing Michael Redd if I were Dallas. Portland who like to unload Davis, and Davis is the kind of physical, banging, rebounding, and defensive enforcers up front Dallas could use instead of having to throw Dirk against the likes of Chris Webber.
     
  5. mfclark

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    Well, then that would mean the Mavs will match the offer from the Clippers. Otherwise, they lose him for nothing.

    As for Michael Redd - I think the Bucks match the contract sheet and then try to make another move involving someone like Anthony Mason. They almost certainly have to keep Redd, but do need some salary space under the luxury tax.
     
  6. Bookit

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    I think you are right. The Bucks will do something to keep Redd. Karl loves him. With regard to Wang, Cuban has done some backtracking and is now saying that they will make a decision withing 24 hours whether they are going to sign him. It looks like he might be a Clipper after all.
     
  7. BanginScrew

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    Where did you hear that. Nothing even close to that has been reported by the Dallas media. Post a link if you would. All reports are saying that Dallas will either match the offer of work out a deal with the Clipps that would have them recind their offer so that a sign & trade can be worked out.

    As for Redd, it is very likely that the Bucks will match the offer but don't forget that they are already $1 million over the projected cap so any contract that they give Redd will automatically be doubled (as far as what the owner will have to come out of pocket) because of the luxury tax. We all know Cuban can afford it but can the Bucks owner afford it? According to the Milwaukee media it doesn't look good on the Bucks part as far as matching the offer.
     
  8. Bookit

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    It was reported on Fox Sports 1190 (the best Mavs source since Mike Fisher runs DallasBasketball.com) yesterday. Today, Fisher is reporting that he spoke with Nellie and it will either be Redd or Wang. Not both. The Mavs will likely wait and see if Redd signs with Milwaukee before signing Wang. In other words, the Mavs would much rather have Redd.
     
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    Just heard it for myself. Kind of disappointing though. I'd like for the Mavs to have both or at least get a draft pick for Wang. I could live with just having Redd though.
     
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    It could very well be neither. Milwaukee has an extra day to wait to decide if they want to keep Redd than Dallas does on Wang, I do believe. If they exercise that right, Dallas may well get neither of the two players and be left out in the dry.
     
  11. Bookit

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    The Mavs said they wouldn't let that happen. They have already stated that getting Redd is a "longshot" so they aren't going to let Wang go without some sort of compensation.
     
  12. BanginScrew

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    That's the impression I got. If Milwaukee waits, then more than likely Dallas will match LA's offer for Wang or work out a sign & trade for Wang. It's still likely that they might end up with both Wang, and Redd.
     
  13. Desert Scar

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    I would be very surprised if both Milw and Dal didn't match. You don't let go of young promising players at reasonable contracts. These guys are more marketable than Marc Jackson was, worst case scenario the teams match the salaries and trade them to other teams (not Dal for Redd, not Clips for Wang) when they are allowed to by rule (I think after 90 days).

    Think about it this way, GS resigned Marc Jackson even after bitter public desputes full well knowing MJ had a refusal clause and when GS didn't really want to take on more salary. Redd and Wang are both younger than MJ, probably have higher ceilings, and don't have poisioned relations with their teams (probably not put up obstacles to be traded or make the org look bad publically)--it is extremely unlikely they don't stay with their current teams at least in the short term.

    Hopefully the Mavs and Bucks organizations, like the Cavs, will have a little class and let their guys know what they are going to do right away.
     
  14. BanginScrew

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    According to Don Nelson the Mavs won't make a decision on Wang until Milwaukee makes a decision on Redd.
     
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    Didn't Wang sign before Redd? If that's the case, Dallas would have to make a decision on Wang first.
     
  16. BanginScrew

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    From what I've been reading the Clipps didn't send the offer sheet to the Mavs until Wednesday for some reason. According to NBA rules since the Mavs didn't get the offer sheet until Wednesday they have 15 from Wednesday to match the offer (even if Wang actually signed it on Monday). The Bucks recieved the offer sheet for Redd on Tuesday.

    Here's a link that confirms it.

    http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/4202701.htm
     
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    I'm curious about Milwaukee and Redd. Logic says that they would match the offer sinmce they don't want to lose Redd, but Milwaukee is also keeping a close eye on that luxury tax. I'm leaning towards them keeping Redd at this point. Tim Thomas starting isn't a give with Tony Kukoc in the fold in Milwaukee.
     
  18. Franz Kafka

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    So am I.

    Even though it's widely reported to be a 3yr/$12M offer, Marc Stein at ESPN is reporting it as a 4 year deal for 12 million. Stein is fresh outta the Dallas market, so you'd think he would have his facts straight. That makes the first year only $2.6M. If the Bucks plan on matching, you'd think they'd go ahead and get Redd into training camp. Every day that passes makes you wonder.
     
  19. BanginScrew

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    I would say that Tim Thomas starting is a pretty safe bet. He's clearly better than both Kukoc, and Redd.
     
  20. Bookit

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    The offer is a 3 year deal and not a 4 year deal. It was reported at http://www.dallasbasketball.com as a 3 year 12million dollar deal and "just under the 4.5 Million exception" so Mark Stein must have made a typo. Dallasbasketball.com is VERY close to the organization.
     

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