[FanHouse] Rockets interested in Cousins... and Carl Landry

0-4 :grin:

 

They also went on loosing streaks when Lowry was out last season.

 

Cousins is probably going to be a center, don't think he is quick enough to guard 4s.

If you have a chance to pickup a guy with the potential of Cousins, who could anchor the middle for a decade, for a fringe top 15 PGaurd...you do it. Compound that with the fact the Rox have some depth at that position and it's almost a no-brainer. They don't want Martin back so doesn't need to be discussed but another thing that works against AB is the upcoming contract he might get as well.

 

Good point

Our first couple of losses might of been because we didnt have a backup PG.

Good thing we will get Lowry as our backup when Brooks returns.

 

Exactly!!!What is all this talk about Hill for Landry?? Imagine both of those guys on the court togther...!!!Instant defense and energy with scoring (mainly by Landry) off the bench.....insert a productive wing/SF (trade bud first then bring Battier off the bench) and you got yourself a well rounded team.....I nice mix of young and old players/ defense and offense......

Lowry/Ish
Martin/Lee
Wallace/Jackson/iggy/ dare i say "Artest"<<< wishful thinking
Scola/Landry
Yao/Hill/Hayes

Hey Morey.....will work for season tickets!!....put me on the staff man!!!

IT IS WRITTEN.

 

Not if they know whats best. Brooks needs to be coming off the bench. Whats the excuse now for winning without Brooks, when we were losing with him? I'm sure you guys will come up with another good one. Probably some more of those flashy stats. I deal with the obvious and it's obvious to me that Brooks was not cutting it as our starter. Ok, look at it this way. We have won 6 more games with Lowry starting than we have with Brooks this season. Guess what point guard got us our first win? Ish, who,btw, has won 1 more game than Brooks has as our starter this season.

 

Cool story, now look at the past 3 years rather than 18 games.

 

I also don't think the Rocket's want him back. I think it's that Sac wants us to take him if we want cousins. I also doubt Brooks is all they want. They probably want to add someone like Hill or Patterson, who are on rookie contracts long term instead of losing Landry after the season.

 

Lars, you can't go back over 3 years because the line-up has changed since then. You no longer have Ron Artest playing next to Brooks and Battier. It's Martin, who also plays no defense, but makes up for it by his uncanny ability to get to the free throw line. So now Brooks becomes a defensive liability within the starting line-up and teams had started to exploit that on a nightly basis before he got hurt. Thus, Rockets beginning 0-4.

 

You are reaching. There are 3 above average offensive players in the starting lineup all with defensive liabilities. Each has a competent defender at the position behind him. But somehow Brooks is the only one being exploited? Give me a break.

There are multiple chaanges that have been made since then. Simply adding any competent backup PG so Brooks didn't have to play 40+ minutes likely allows us to win 3 of those 4 games. Miller/Lee being more acclimated with the team. Using Hill more, etc.

To say Brooks was the sole cause of those losses is absolutely ridiculous.

The coach made his decision, why you can't accept it is beyond me.

 

Hey, it is what it is. I just watch the games. Although my post may have sounded as if i were blaming Brooks for the losses, that was not my intention. Maybe that some deep down beleif that you are carrying around yourself, but i will say this. Because there are more defensive players in the starting unit now, they are doing much better in that department than they were when Brooks was starting.

 

You keep saying this, DD, but it isn't as simple as that.

Unless the salary cap is raised significantly under the new CBA, it will be very difficult for the Rockets to sign Landry as an unrestricted free agent without having to renounce their rights to either Yao Ming or Aaron Brooks. And if they renounce Yao's rights, you're basically looking at Carl Landry as THE "Yao replacement" for salary cap purposes.

By TRADING for Landry (which, like you, I am not in favor of unless there is going to be a major shakeup to the current frontcourt), the Rockets allow themselves the ability to obtain Landry's Bird rights, which I highly doubt will be removed under the new CBA. Under the current rules, Landry's "cap hold" would only be $6M, so the Rockets would have more flexibility to pursue other free agents while still retaining the right to re-sign Landry later in the summer.

Nothing is "free" in this business. And cap space may not be as plentiful a commodity for the Rockets as you seem to think.

 

SnT is a possibility though or what about the MLE?

 

Ok here is the blockbuster deal where every team should be happy with there trade.

Houston gets Carmelo, Iguodala, and Landry........

New line up
Lowry, ish
Iguodala, lee
Melo, Budinger
Scola, Landry
Yao, Miller

Philly gets Battier and a pick
They do this just because they are trying to dump his contract and they get a pick out of it. Plus they save around 6 million dollars instantly.

Sac town gets Brooks, Hill, Jefferies
They get there pg and there power forward to replace Cousins in Hill.

Denver gets Martin, Cousins, And Taylor. Also a pick
They get back a young piece in Cousins and a good vet in Martin. Also send them NY pick. Jermaine Taylor would get his trade he wanted

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

 

Sure, it is. But the salary cap issues remain the same. You can't use the MLE for sign-and-trade purposes, and I have a feeling that the MLE (as we know it) will no longer exist whenever free agency begins in 2011.

 

Off-topic but Miami would be screwed if this happens.

Unless Scola or Hill is moved then Carl doesn't make sense.

 

Maybe we are moving Scola for Melo come Dec. 15th?

 

Cousin for Brook or Scola...interesting....

 

Naw Cousins and Landry for Brooks, Hill and some other fillers.

Scola and fillers for Melo and Anderson.

That's what I think?

Maybe we are waiting till the 15th to make it official?