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The system has made my brother racist

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rockbox, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. IBTL

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    too hot for this bbs..heads will roll don't do it..

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    it's a trap
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Honestly . . .sounds like is bro or his bro's HR dept is full of *****.
    Rather than give a real reason they give an excuse that serves no purpose
    than to pass the buck.

    QUESTION: How many Women has you Bro fired? Mexicans? Handicapped? Heck . . for for the full monty . . How many white men have he fired? How often? Where do these guys rate with them? Better or worse? What's the criteria?

    His complaint is. . . they only do what they are told to do? They don't go above an beyond? Well . . I dunno . . never heard of anyone getting fired for doing their job adequately but not going ABOVE AND BEYOND.

    Rocket River


    See I'm not racist. . just careful blah blah blah
    bullisht!!!

    Rocket River
    . . .also his bro is obviously doesn't live in Texas where u can fire anyone at anytime for just about anything
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Houston Rockets have made me racist.

    OMG WHY DO THEY CATER TO YAO WHEN THEY SHOULD GET RID OF HIM FOR BETTER QUALIFIED AMERICAN PLAYERS?!
     
  4. robbie380

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    I thought they made you gay :eek: from all the johnson talk and homosexual innuendo in your posts ;)


    And back to the OP...this sound like bs. This just doesn't add up at all. If they are bad employees then document and fire. What have they said when he has had talks with them about their poor performance? Have they threatened lawsuits or something?
     
  5. robbie380

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    Yeah that's the other thing that I didn't get either. I'd like some more detail on this whole thing.
     
  6. rtsy

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    There are still probably fears of lawsuits. And employers should be able to be fire for any reason, it's no different than having the right to quit for any reason.
     
  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Honestly

    I never said my brother wasn't racist. The title states that he is racist. Honestly, I hope I never hire anyone like you for a senior position paying 125K +, if you only expect to do what you are told to do. I can hire an intern 10 dollars an hour to do that.
     
  8. robbie380

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    Not being able to fire a couple people doesn't magically turn you into a racist. I am gonna guess he was already closed minded before this.
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Actually he is very opened minded. He hired the guys (internally) in the first place. If he were straight out racist, he would have never let the guys into his group.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    What type of 'Above and Beyond' is he looking for?

    Does he run a paper company in Scanton?

    Is it this guy?
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    wait wait wait


    Did he hire them or were they transferred.

    Rocket River
    I suspect Strong Performers is code for HIS BUDDIES
    and Black Employees is code for . .not my buddies that happen to be black.
     
  11. CometsWin

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    It sounds like your brother needs to document a set of work instructions for the position and then set up metrics to gauge the performance of people in that position. Or he can keep whining like a lazy b****. He does not sound like a very good manager.
     
  12. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Have you ever worked in a large corporation? When a head count gets created and somone get hired internally, they get transfered. Often managers will give people good reviews just so they can get hired by someone else in the company. Nobody is going to willingly take a mediocre performer off your hands.

    I had two of those people hired into my group a few years ago. They were from the same organization, and were dumb as bricks. We flew them all around the world to get trained and even after a year on the job, they couldn't do it. We put up with them because they were a buffer just in case of layoffs which happened a couple of times.
     
  13. moose

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    Let them go and hire my dad...
     
  14. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I don't think most of you realize how hard it is to fire someone from a senior position at a large company. I new someone that was trying to get fired/layed off from a very large company because of a non compete clause. He showed up for work only to turn on the light in his office. It took them six months before they could get rid of him and even then they didn't officially fire him. They just let him quit and tore up his non-compete. This was at a company with over 100K employees worldwide.

    Most managers just wait until layoff time and put the poor performers at the bottom of the list.
     
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    This sounds like application engineers working for Intel. A lot of the semi companies are filled with a bunch of hating Indians.
     
  16. Billy Bob

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    I work for the State in California so I know how hard it is to fire someone, especially a minority. But I can be done. It usually takes about 6 months and some bad evaluations. We've had a discrimination lawsuit that I know of but won because the managers are told to go through a document process before firing someone, including co-worker testmonies.

    It just sounds like his HR department is too lazy to go through the legal process.
     
  17. orbb

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    Maybe your brother's story is true. I assure you its not the norm. These days, regardless of color, you could get fired for an attitude problem you had 5 years ago.

    On second thought, given the above, I take that back. Your brother IS racist. So HR refuses to cut them, and he concludes its because they are black? Does he know, for a fact that there aren't engineers of any other color receiving the same "black priviiege"?
     
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    Ok....so how exactly is he racist now? Is he like Archie Bunker now or something?
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    I work for a very large company and they fire anyone that under performs.
     
  20. Shroopy2

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    The system MADE him racist? From the title, I thought you were talking about severe conditions like the prison system or law enforcement system. Just company procedures turns an ADULT into a racist?

    I continuously criticize the California system in their protection of women. I bash their p***y-whooped system to anyone who can hear - and it has NOT made me a woman hater and male chauvenist. (I was that before going into it :eek:)

    I think the system encouraged out the racism that was already in him.
     

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