I see Codman. So Yao returning is not a "good thing". Have the people at clutchfans lost their flippin minds?
A: None of us are sorry Yao is returning B: None of believe Yao is the answer to turning this crappy start around C: Stop being so defensive because not everyone thinks Yao is the end all be all of this team
No, you forget. History is why I'm not optimistic about Yao. But if he ends up having a great comeback, I'll be thrilled.
We'll see hayesfan. When the Rockets turn this around and finish the season with a 52 win season, and into the playoffs, you will regret your poor attitude and words you are displaying right now. The Rockets are getting Yao and Brooks back. That's fantastic news.
It's one thing to be skeptical of Yao's left foot. It's another thing to be negative and just give up on the season. We're not even into December yet, and you guys act as if it's the end of the world. It's not. I repeat: Yao and Brooks are returning. Soon. I expect a very good December for the Houston Rockets. Much much better than November.
Cool. Nice to know Yao and AB are coming back possibly a day/days apart. It's crazy so many here think Yao is done, and AB has lost it, compared to last year. They both played a handful of games this year. And then the thought that it might be bad for the team to get guys back? Have people been paying attention to how badly this team is doing right now? I doubt they are going to make the team worse. Whatever though, I'm sure CF input is important.
Can you base your optimism on anything tangible? All the numbers and stats say Yao will help but not enough or just get hurt for another month.
I am bigger Yao fan than you think. And I try to be optimistic about the situation as much as I can. But if you've watched any of the early Rockets game, you'll know that Yao coming back for these short spurts of time are hurting team chemistry and aren't really getting us anywhere. I rather just have Yao sit out until he's healthy enough to play with no limits.
Did you read what I wrote? I didn't write that it was terrible for the team. I just know that our guys can't depend on Yao all year. They have to do it as a team, whereas they watched Tracy when he returned from injury. It's a different situation.
Hey, I'm not blindly optimistic, but I'm also not suicidal as some of you guys appear to be! Granted, I give you that December was a disaster. But Brooks and Yao are key players for this team, even with Yao's 24 minute rule. Brooks and Yao returning are tangible reasons to be OPTIMISTIC. How do you know that December won't be better than November? I believe the Rockets will start to get better with their two mainstays returning.
Really? We weren't winning with both Yao and Brooks in the beginning of the season.. so why would any of that change when they come back
Yao hasn't gone through a season without serious injury in 5 seasons. Despite that, I was cautiously optimistic heading into this season. I even created a thread describing why I think Yao's return would help turn this team around. Then within 5 games, injury-prone Yao was lost for nearly a month for simply falling down. And I'm supposed to be giddy about his return? If that's all it takes to lose Yao for an extended period, why should I ever feel comfortable with him being able to lead us anywhere?
It's perfectly fine for you to be "optimistic" about the team with the return of Yao and AB, but when you consider the time it takes to return from longer injuries, I'd suggest you be realistic as well. Yao isn't going to come in and change the game immediately. It will take a good month at least. AB will also need time to get his speed back. As fans, of course we want our players to return healthy, but we're also impatient about progress. Everyone is glad that Yao is coming back, but it *might not* be good for the team if they depend on him too much.
IF Yao comes back this Friday he should be coming off the bench and not starting. I would prefer Yao to get his minutes coming off the bench for a month until he gets his conditioning back.
Yeah i saw him trending at #1 last night...thought there was breaking news about him or something..guess not.
Pretty much where I stand now. Of course I root for the team, but, objectively, one cannot deny that the team has performed badly and it doesn't look like there is a clear solution to turn the season around. Also, objectively, one cannot expect Yao to perform well while remaining relatively free of major injuries for the rest of the year. This was supposed to be a pretty decent team without Yao, and was expected to be able to win while Yao was limited. Such expectations have proven not to be the case. The team needs somebody to elevate them out of their current level of play, and a limited Yao is not likely to be the guy to do it.
Lets trade Yao. He isn't doing **** anymore these days and his body is made of glass. McGrady is less injury prone than Yao now.
He has been as productive as he ever has this season. He would EASILY average 20-10 If he could play 32 minutes....
Yes, you should be giddy that 1. Yao didn't re-injure his left foot. 2. Yao Ming is returning and even his limited play this season shows that skill-wise, he is almost back to the pre-injury Yao. You extrapolate his numbers in 20 minutes over a full 36 minutes, it's his typical 20/10 numbers. We all knew coming into the season that Yao would struggle early on, but the consensus was that he would improve gradually over the season. The key question was the health and endurance of that left foot. This is why the 24 minute rule is important. You guys are simply not being patient enough with Yao or the Rockets. It's shocking to read the amount of rancorous hate filled crazy rantings on this board. Such a display reflects emotions that go far deeper than skepticism but is closer to genuine hatred of Yao Ming. We all knew that there were many Yao haters but they have largely remained hidden due to Yao's overall success. Now with his injury, they are coming out of the woodworks and making themselves heard. When Yao leads the Rockets to another successful season, you guys will crawl back and be silenced once again.
