well i did say he was "our star" not "a star." there is a small difference. i don't consider him a star for obvious reasons. he could become one with some improvement (either defense or passing). but mostly i don't consider him a star because he doesn't make the game easier for others. in fact its the opposite, the game becomes easier for him when playing with better talent.
Not really interesting, considering that none of the top 30 in TS% are stars. And then there's the fact that he's only played a few games. I'm surprised his percentage is as high as it is.
Since I read a few requests to show some defensive stats, I have done some research over defensive ratings. (players with over 140 minutes played.) Net defensive ratings of the team when player is on the court compared to off the court. Red = team rating is higher when off the court Green = team rating is higher when on the court 2010-2011 Kyle Lowry - (-7.94) Ishmael Smith - (-4.99) Chuck Hayes - (-3.53) Luis Scola - (-2.72) Brad Miller - (-1.03) Chase Budinger - (-.88) Jordan Hill - (-.28) Kevin Martin - .55 Shane Battier - 1.23 Courtney Lee - 2.43 Aaron Brooks - 12.06 Since the sample size is rather small, here are last year's as well. I realize this doesn't mean much because it only compares our own players, yet it still shows who the better defenders are on OUR team. Overall, it is apparent that we need to play much better defense to start winning some more games. 2009-2010 Kyle Lowry - (-3.42) Chuck Hayes - (-3.07) Shane Battier - (-1.48) Jordan Hill - (-.42) Brad Miller - (-.22) Aaron Brooks - .89 Luis Scola - 1.54 Chase Budinger - 2.76 Kevin Martin - 4.03 Courtney Lee - 5.58 http://basketballvalue.com/teamplay...mber=85&sortorder=ASC&team=HOU&year=2010-2011 http://basketballvalue.com/teamplay...mber=85&sortorder=ASC&team=HOU&year=2009-2010 http://basketballvalue.com/teamplay...mber=85&sortorder=ASC&year=2009-2010&team=CHI http://basketballvalue.com/teamplay...mber=85&sortorder=ASC&team=NJN&year=2009-2010
Thanks for the updated stats. I'm in disbelief that Martin's number isn't even worse... We built that double digit lead tonight while he was riding the pine, but between him closing the half and starting the third, Charlotte took the lead and we never recovered. Give that Lee kid some more PT please!
Yep, I plan on updating the stats every now and then once more games have been played. That's also why I threw in last year's stats, which show what we can expect from each player's defense as the season progresses..... Would you guys be interested in looking at the stats were I to update them every now and again?
Thanks for doing the research but that doesn't mean anything when you're comparing within the team like that. I mean, look at Boston, Rajon Rondo is 2nd worst when you look at that stat, Joakim Noah is worst on Chicago, Dwight Howard is barely even... Too many other factors for that stat to hold any meaning at all. I don't think there's honestly any way to quantify a player's value on the defensive end, at least I've never seen a stat that does.
^To continue my above point, the only thing I can see that's valuable from that stat is if you see a starter in the positive well ahead of other starters like you do with Ariza on NO, Hibbert on IND, or Pau on LAL, then you know that player is really valuable on defense.
i don't think even DD has considered bud an elite shooter. also, he has been coming off an ankle injury which effects jump shooters a lot. hopefully once he gets his conditioning back and feeling 100% his shooting will return like we saw glimpses of tonight
I have no problem with Brad Miller. He's not my concern. I do think the impact many expected from him was completely overrated in the offseason...but that's not his fault. He's been a bright spot so far.
You must have missed the entire thread a few weeks ago where some people were arguing just that. In DD's defense, I seem to recall him saying that Budinger had the "potential" to become an elite shooter, but wasn't there yet.
I've noticed this way too often this year as well unfortunately. A lead is built without Martin, and then he comes in, and the lead starts to evaporate........ I think if he gives up as much as he scores, he's not all that valuable then.
Here is the first update, stats do not include tonight's game. Regular FG% Brad Miller - 55% Jordan Hill - 53% Luis Scola - 51% Chuck Hayes - 51% Courtney Lee - 46% Kevin Martin - 43% Aaron Brooks - 46% Shane Battier - 41% Kyle Lowry - 41% Ishmael Smith - 39% Chase Budinger - 38% True Shooting % (takes all field goals and free throws into effect) Brad Miller - 64% Kevin Martin - 60% Courtney Lee - 57% Jordan Hill - 57% Aaron Brooks - 56% Chuck Hayes - 55% Luis Scola - 55% Shane Battier - 54% Kyle Lowry - 50% Chase Budinger - 44% Ishmael Smith - 43% eFG% (adjusts for the fact that a 3 pointer is worth more than a 2 pointer) Brad Miller - 62% Courtney Lee - 54% Jordan Miller - 53% Aaron Brooks - 52% Kevin Martin - 51% Shane Battier - 51% Luis Scola - 51% Chuck Hayes - 51% Kyle Lowry - 45% Ishmael Smith - 40% Chase Budinger - 40% PER (player efficiency rating based on league average of 15) Brad Miller - 21.1 Luis Scola - 20.7 Kevin Martin - 20.3 Aaron Brooks - 16.7 Courtney Lee - 14.1 Chuck Hayes - 13.3 Kyle Lowry - 13.1 Jordan Hill - 12.3 Shane Battier - 12.1 Chase Budinger - 10.2 Ishmael Smith - 8.8 http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2011.html
Update Stats for Dragic are from his time on the suns, and Thabeet hasn't played enough minutes to include his stats in my opinion. Regular FG% (more than 100 attempts) Patrick Patterson - 56% Chuck Hayes - 55% Luis Scola - 50% Jordan Hill - 48% Courtney Lee - 46% Brad Miller - 46% Kevin Martin - 44% Chase Budinger - 43% Kyle Lowry - 43% Goran Dragic - 42% True Shooting % (takes all field goals and free throws into effect) Kevin Martin - 61% Chuck Hayes - 58% Patrick Patterson - 57% Brad Miller - 57% Courtney Lee - 55% Kyle Lowry - 54% Luis Scola - 53% Chase Budinger - 53% Jordan Hill - 52% Goran Dragic - 49% eFG% (adjusts for the fact that a 3 pointer is worth more than a 2 pointer) Patrick Patterson - 56% Chuck Hayes - 55% Courtney Lee - 52% Brad Miller - 51% Kevin Martin - 51% Luis Scola - 50% Kyle Lowry - 50% Chase Budinger - 50% Jordan Hill - 48% Goran Dragic -47% PER (player efficiency rating based on leagu average of 15) Kevin Martin - 22.4 Luis Scola - 18.6 Brad Miller - 16.6 Chuck Hayes - 16.5 Patrick Patterson - 16.5 Kyle Lowry - 15.9 Chase Budinger - 14.7 Courtney Lee - 13.3 Jordan Hill - 12.3 Goran Dragic - 11.3 http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2011.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/2011.html
Patterson has the highest PER of any player drafted last year (Blake Griffin leads all rookies though by a wide margin). He is a little older and being brought along at a slow pace, but good pace, by the Rockets. I've posted this before, but I really hope Patterson is getting as much if not more help than Thabeet. Patterson needs to work on defensive rebounding. Hill has really fallen off this year. He still could be valuable as PatPat's backup and should not be used as a center.
