Going into last nights game we were #1 in the league in defensive rebounding and #11 in offensive rebounding. doesn't sound like much of a problem to me...
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defReboundRate we rank 23rd in the league in defensive rebounding and 16th in offensive rebounding. You have to adjust for pace
Please tell me how playing a 6'6 center in the 4th quarter is gonna help you win games?? HIll played 5 mins and got 5 rebounds.
Anhony Randolph is the only guy up there who should be discarded, everyone else plays meaningful minutes. Scola is still pretty low. But what do you guys really expect when Chuck Hayes has logged so many mins at center? Rebounding is more of a team stat than anything and when you're at such a disadvantage like that you're bound to be below average.
I think Hill looks a better rebounder than the stats show because he is inconsistent. He can grab tons of boards and look dominant but he can also go long stretches of gametime without contributing anything.
Well, if Adelman can figure out the rotation and give him CONSISTENT minutes, then he would do a lot better.
Its easy to get more rebounds per minute when you are playing against everyone's second unit....Thats why they are the second unit....cant shoot worth a damn..
The fact that there are more rebounds available should be irrelevant because this is a ranking by rebound rate, the percentage of available rebounds that a player grabs. If a guy is playing with scrubs who shoot a lower percentage, it would help his total numbers, but not his rate.
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I like how you cherry picked! :grin: Just as I suspected...the top rebounders in the league are at the top of the rebounding rate leaderboard.... Come on DD! At least try a little bit! http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holl...com/nba/hollinger/statistics?sort=reboundRate If I could make a table of this I would. How do I make a table with the forum code?
Not at all that was completely my point, that there are outliers in there that force guys down the table. There are lots of guys under 24mpg that have a higher rate but lessor impact on the game overall. DD
It's just Height and athletisicm... We are always lacking in that department and the only once close to helping is Hill.. But it's terribly hard to find a defensive minded athletic Big.
and if we take out those players then do our guys rebounding rates increase? does our relative rank in that stat change by that much? further, 20 mpg isn't a small amount of game time. 20 mpg can give you a pretty good indicator of how good a rebounder a player is.
Stats like this are misleading with few games played, remember how Landry´s rebound rate was off the roof when he started getting some playing time, but once Landry and Scola shared the same minutes it was clear that Luis was the better rebounder. Bench players get´s their stats inflated a lot in Hollinger charts mainly because few good games with few minutes equals a huge projection.
