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How much is a 90-day freeze on construction in the West Bank worth?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Nov 15, 2010.

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    What specific incidences of Israelis/jews being offended "on the internet" are you referring to? In terms of "being offended", I can much more vividly remember examples of muslims constantly being "outraged", even over such insignificant issues as some Danish cartoonist drawing a little picture, burning down embassies and killing people over it. Do you have examples of jews being similarly "outraged" in the recent past, as you mentioned that?
     
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    Don't make a big deal that they work hard? Who does? You claimed that we were whiners.

    It's not racism to say "woop-de-doo... you got massacred... so did my people.. wah wah wah"... it's just stupid, pathetic, apethetic and ignorant. Stop saying stupid crap.

    We aren't the only ones to deal with racism. That is not a reason to ignore it.
     
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    Ignore him. He tends to beat around the bush a lot.
     
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    We wouldn't have such bad relations with that region of the world if we hadn't supported Israel when they did all of the nasty things they did in the occupied territories.

    It's a sad irony that a people who suffered so much at the hands of genocide would then conduct themselves in a similar way towards another people.

    To me, it just goes to show that people will do anything for a piece of land.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
     
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    sure, internet defense tactic #1 - point out how muslims have done the same thing and try to shift blame on them. Maybe you're doing it subconsciously, but you don't see the least bit of hypocrisy in what you said?

     
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    Fanatics have hijacked zionism in a sense and the anti-jewish propaganda machine has demonized the term. We want a state of our own to escape persecution. We want to have a peaceful society where we can worship and live a jewish life.

    I do not intend to derail this thread about the dangers of anti-semitism, and the propaganda and ideals spread that endanger us all. I do not support the settlements at all. I do not support trading fighter jets for essentially nothing in the long run. Israeli policy has made it worse for jews. With that being said, they have become too reactionary to cartoon characters like Ahmedinejad and Nasrallah and it has only strengthened the stance of the right-winged ultrareligious (who wouldn't even consider me to be jewish).
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    At least I provided an example. Your evidence for your anti-Israel statements were vague statements like "they are mean on the Interwebz!" without even showing anything for it. If I take this BBS as an example, I have not seen Jewish outrage here. A lot of outrage from another group, though.

    Again, you failed to provide examples. If I go by what I see on this BBS, it does not support your claim at all.
     
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    i'll provide one from the first page of the thread, from none other than yourself.

    just because a few other posters didn't think that allowing israel to extort 3 billion dollars in cutting edge technology from the US was a good idea.

    I leave the rest as an exercise to the reader.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    I'm not jewish or from Israel, how does that support any of your statements about jews or Israel? :confused:
     
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    Maybe we should try: come back to the table or we'll give those F-35s to the Palestinians.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    LOL :grin:
     
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    I'm far from left-wing and I absolutely despise how we as a country are Israel's b****.

    1% to 2% of Americans are Jewish and .6-1.5% of Americans are Muslim.

    Let them fight it out, why the hell do we need to get in the middle of these nutjobs.

    This Israeli-Arab conflict will be going on forever.
     
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    my bad then. i was wrong in my assumptions.
     
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    Was a response as to how our relations were with other countries in the ME.
     
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    what he said had nothing to do with relations to nations in the middle east but how Israel treats Palestinians.
     
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    Saudi's just bought $60 billion worth of US weaponry, mainly upgraded F-15's. Supposedly the Saudi's wanted the most most advanced version and some long range weapons, but the Israeli's quashed that. Its part of the US's foreign policy for Israel to have the technological edge against everyone else in the region.
     
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    Israel sure is the one in need of protection
     

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