The Value of a Point Guard

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The offense was already good. The main improvement is that the defense is a lot better.

And it's not just the TWolves. The Rockets made quite a comeback with Ish against the Spurs.

When Brooks comes back, he needs to fit into what they are doing out there now.

 

Ish is nothing like Kyle Lowry...Imo

 

I'm not one to go overboard and say bench brooks for Ish.

But the fact is the guy brought great energy and is better at gaining assists than brooks. I say if Brooks isn't cutting it, or gets down on himself (which I think might decrease now that being a father will definitely motivate him), put in Ish (as a backup to be sure, but don't hesitate to put him in if need be) and let go of the "he's our starter" or "lowry is a veteran" ego.

Just like that was the problem preventing Hill from getting a chance, go with who helps you win not whose contract is bigger that you have to justify paying, or a starter or a veteran.

 

Yes, those "pure point guards" win all the championships. Oh wait, scratch that - they don't do that.

 

This was a joke right?

 

Rockets offensively are shooting about 44-47%, which is about the same as the last 5 games.

The Timberwolves are shooting 35-39%, when they are normally at 48%. It has nothing to do with Ish's playmaking ability. You could say it's Ish's defense, but it wouldn't explain the poor performance of the 2-5 of the Tpups.

 

wonder how long it takes for a guard to get a good shooting touch

Rafer never got it, seems like Lowry is still struggling with it.

 

VER few PG's can probe the defense like Ish does. He has a special talent.

 

Umm, I am watching the game. The Timberwolves are bricking shots. Martin and Ish were bricking shots terribly in the beginning. Martin and Scola got it going after the 1st quarter. Scola has always been better in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, but Martin is usually better in the 1st quarter with Brooks.

 

Amen!!!

 

you're entitled to your opinion... even if its wrong :grin:

i think they are both pass first pg's who like to push the tempo and hound the ball on defense. lowry is a much better rebounder and driver/finisher... which makes ish the poor mans lowry!

 

thank you jesus i am not alone on this

 

A PG that runs the offense makes the extra pass keeps team on defense longer. Everyone on defense has too focus since a true PG is liable to put them into the game. With AB, the team stands around waiting for him or Martin to shoot. Plus AB's throws some of the worse passes you've ever seen by PG. At Yao's feet, too late, too early. He doesn't have that Nash, Paul, Williams, mindset. Ish does and if give minutes it will show.

I luv AB but the Rockets need more of an Ish type pg.

 

well 10 assists would be 20 pts if u think of it maybe even more, so if u avg, 20pt and 10asst, that's like 30pts

 

Lowry is not nearly the passer Ish is, he isn't as smooth in probing the defense, and he doesn't finish better. He does defend better, and he draws fouls much more effectively (which counts as a type of finish ... but if Lowry isn't fouled, he isn't going to finish).

Ish reminds me much more of Rondo than Lowry. And before you jump at the comparison, Rondo had fewer points, fewer assists and fewer rebounds in college (granted, on a better Kentucky team) -- and Rondo was a 6/4 guy in 24 minutes as a rookie ... so I'm not comparing Ish to a world-beater like Wall.

All of that said, I'd prefer to have Ish sit and learn this year with Lowry starting and Brooks as instant offense off of the bench. Lowry/Martin and Brooks/Lee are much more complementary pairs (esp. if you put Budinger with that second trio and Battier with the first). Brooks is a better and more valuable player than Lowry or Ish at this point, but I'd rather let him focus on the one thing he does exceptionally well -- score.

 

So so true. If Ish can learn to finish the way Rondo does, he will be a deadly pg to play against...