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Analysis of Yao Usage Pre & Post injury

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by phantoman, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. phantoman

    phantoman Member

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    I was able to get some stats about Yao from 82games.com by quarter. I am not sure if this was posted before but here is my brief analysis. I hope to prove that Yao is indeed back, at least statistically. In my analysis I hope to offer a suggestion on how to divide up the 24min time lock on Yao.

    The data obtained was from 2008-2009 Season

    Yao Avg 20pt/10bd in about 32 mins per game.

    Below is the break out by quarter.
    2008-2009
    Quarter Games Mins FGA FG% Pts Reb
    1st Quarter 77 775 4.3 0.518 5.6 3
    2nd Quarter 77 513 2.9 0.582 4.4 2.2
    3rd Quarter 76 752 3.7 0.552 5.5 2.8
    4th Quarter 71 526 2.7 0.566 4.5 2


    If you take the mins divided by the games you will get the avg min per quarter. You will notice that if you add up all the mins you will not get the 32 mins per game, you'll end up with 34min per game.

    Mins per game % min per game
    1st 10.06 30%
    2nd 6.66 20%
    3rd 9.89 29%
    4th 7.41 22%
    Total 34.03

    If you notice the first and 3rd quarters Yao's plays the most. Usually to get going on early on. This is evident by the points scored in each quarter and rebounds. You'll also notice that Yao is more efficient with less time, good examples are in the 2nd and 4th quarter's FG%. So we also realize that Yao is not a 4th qtr star like the old Tmac. Which is our problem currently.

    If you take the same precentage of mins and base it off the 24min lock down, we can probably yield very good results. Here is what the min break down will look like.

    Adj Min
    1st 7.10
    2nd 4.70
    3rd 6.98
    4th 5.22
    Total 24

    Aso, if you apply the same concept we can yield the estimated total points and rebound by quarter.

    Points Boards
    1st 3.95 2.12
    2nd 3.10 1.55
    3rd 3.88 1.97
    4th 3.17 1.41
    Total 14.11 7.05

    If you look at Yao's current averages over the few games he has played, he is almost there. 2010-2011: 12.7 pts/ 7.3rb. This leads me to believe that Yao has progressed very well.

    In conculsion, I feel that Yao is not done yet. With the limited mins he is still producing similar numbers to that of 2008-2009. Granted that he is not as physical or dominant as then, I don't have a doubt that he will regain his form.
    My suggestion to RA would be to play him as he did in 2008-2009 with loaded mins in qtrs 1&3.

    Given this data, i feel the problem with the team is more on a chemistry and a psycological side and trying too hard to intergrate Yao and the team together.

    Anyways, I hope this was beneficial to you all.
     
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  2. ICanDunkOnYao

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    good analysis amidst all the annoying knee-jerk threads
     
  3. napalm06

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    A pretty interesting take that flies in the face of what I've been saying about Yao. Nice thread.

    Personally I think Yao is derailing our team on offense due to the team's perceived obligation to involve him in the play even when it's not convenient. I think one of the main things that should change is using Yao as just another weapon on the court, not a centerpiece by any means.

    Of course Adelman probably thinks very differently than me - he's the long-time NBA coach.
     
  4. MightyMog

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    Scola and Yao got the ball 3-4 times in the 2nd half for the last 2 games! That's not looking for him......
     
  5. cfansnet

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    Wow, great analysis! To blame these losses on a single player is just silly.
     
  6. el_locoteee

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    Humm the obligation to get Yao involve on offense make the team not play any defense and allow wide open shots while letting scrubs look like Michael Jordan?

    Offense check. maybe some adjustment finishing games.
    Defense, defense what is that?
     
  7. DontTradeOswalt

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    Stats are for losers
     
  8. el_locoteee

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    99% of ppl that jump with not parachute from tall building die.

    Stats are for losers. Go and jump from one tomorrow.
     
  9. rockets934life

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    Good stuff but to much math for my taste, I always go with the good old eyeball test. ;)
     
  10. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    From preseason game 1 to now Yao has improved tremendously. The difference is amazing. He improves with each game. Yao has been a bright spot not a problem.
     
  11. Someguy1229

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    Yao looks fine especially coming off such a devastating injury. Don't listen to the idiots saying "Yao is done."
     
  12. Roxs-Redemption

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    Thanks For sharing :)
     
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    This. We get a lead in the first half then Martin/AB/Budinger get super trigger happy.
     
  14. phantoman

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    Yea, I agree, i particularly noticed the weak side rotation was much better in the last game. That is evident in his 2 blks. I'd give hime 4-5 more games, we will see him hit his stride at that time. Hopefully, the rest of the team will figure it out.

    I think there is some problems in the locker room right now. You can tell they have a hard time getting along. but that is just my observation.


    agreed!
     
  15. CDrex

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    Doesn't really account for his horrific lack of mobility on defense; that said, I do agree with your basic premise and it's also pretty clear that he's already getting the hang of the offense again and will continue to score more efficiently.
     
  16. heyangw

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    Yes, this is the key.
    The guards did not have discipline and play smart
    The two most offensive weapons of the team could not get the ball when most needed.
     
  17. whoisray

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    Yao is way ahead of schedule! Most people were saying to give him half a season or the full season to hopefully get back to where he was. It's only 4 games in. I don't doubt that he'll be the Yao of old come in another month.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yao is fine, the only thing holding him back are his doctors....

    He could be playing 30+ minutes now.....

    That would help a lot with the chemistry problems.

    One thing to note though, teams are not going to let Yao get the ball so easily late in the game...so it is not as easy to get him the ball in the 4th as it is in the 1st.

    DD
     
  19. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I agree. Yao could probably play 32mpg and that alone would solve a lot of the chaos. But this is his contract year and a pivotal year for his career. He'd jeopardize everything in a heartbeat to help this team. That's why we cant allow it yet. Its not fair to him. If we're in the playoffs or can honestly say we have a legitimate chance at a title then you can push it. Not now though.
     
  20. coachbadlee

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    So he is only playing 10 mins less than before.
     

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