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[Chron] No extension for Brooks (deadline passes)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Nov 2, 2010.

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Should Brooks have gotten an extension?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    255 vote(s)
    79.2%
  1. spookyoldtree

    spookyoldtree Member

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    Can you trade player who is recently extended? If not, one of the reasons might be that AB has been in part of the trading plan, e.g. for Melo.
     
  2. Russjr2

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    I dont know if I agree with you on this DD. Without being in on the 'talks' we have no idea what Brooks and his agent were aksing for.

    What if he and his agent were trying to use their leverage of him being the MIP of last year and the current starter to ask for something higher than his value (asking to be paid like a top 10 PG)? Do you think he is worth that much more than what Conley got? I agree with DM on this, let the market determine his value. If there is a team that wants to over pay him, let them (I seriously doubt that will happen). We have Lowry and that would free up cap space to find his replacement.

    I like AB, but he is not a top level PG in the NBA. Good shooter and scorer for the most part, but he doesn't use his speed in other ways to help the team. When his shot is not falling what else does he do on the floor for us???? No contract extension, sorry!
     
  3. worzel gummidge

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    It was speculated, that the Hawks would be too cheap to re-sign JJ this past off-season, but they did.
     
  4. worzel gummidge

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    ⇧ Wrong thread.
     
  5. rocketsregle

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    I don't think he's letting this spill on the court at all. IMO, what you are seeing is his frustration over his play. He gets himself in a rut rather than helping in other ways.
     
  6. worzel gummidge

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    I thought he was mostly showing bad body language whenever Martin took over the playmaking duties.
     
  7. MightyMog

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    There is a big difference on players who can fill the stat sheet vs players who make the right plays to win games.

    As our starting PG, he lacks the ability to make the right plays at the crucial times to insure "The Team" is in a good position to win.

    Prime examples
    - Who to pass the ball to (not Hayes)
    - Effectively run a PNR play
    - Not taking a quick 3 point shot when we are up by 1
    -Not dribbling the ball of your feet under the 5 minute mark in the 4th quarter
    - not fouling by jumping up and down on the defender, when we need stops.
     
  8. mattrbowers

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    I can understand your disagreement, and I'm not saying that I agree with DM, but if Les is going to pay (and he's openly said he doesn't mind shelling out the bucks to get who he wants) then it seems like DM could get away with this strategy.

    As far as making them trade assets now, that's a different story, as is player moral. All I'm saying is if he's going to spend more money and Les has OK'd it, then there's really not a problem financially.
     
  9. thedreamsteam

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    AB will be traded at some point this season. We should of sold High on him in the offseason.
     
  10. Prince

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    AB + Yao for Melo
     
  11. Honey Bear

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    Yeah, Morey's expertise in stats over basketball savvy has cost this team.

    Bringing in Kevin Martin and trading Trevor Ariza, the Rockets defensive stalwart, has given Houston the worst defensive backcourt in the league

    Overvaluing the importance of guys like Shane Battier and Chuck Hayes due to stats.

    Overpaying Lowry, constantly holding out to the last second to strike deals with guys he wants to bring back. You can't treat everyone like they're made in China town.
     
  12. Rocketboi

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    this.
    but, actually we never gave ariza a chance, if we had kept him, we'd honestly be a way better team, we have no idea how good, he would be with a couple of 7 footers on the floor, oh wait, see the 09 lakers.

    lol the bolded part made me laugh, you really dont watch the rockets much do you? the reason we overvalue chuck and battier is because of what DOESNT show on the stat sheet. they have never been stat guys, especially battier
     
  13. No Chance

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    This is most likely the main reason, and I do agree with the rest of post.
     
  14. Rocket4Life11

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    Good things come to those who are patient...
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  15. morpheus133

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    I don't understand why some of you assume that if we had offered extensions to Scola and Lowry it would have been for less money. That almost certainly would not have been the case. Sure the Rockets could have offered them a lower contract extension than the contract they ended up signing, but that doesn't mean they would have signed it. In fact, there is an equal or greater chance that this low ball offer would have created more ill will than matching did.

    So, if you believe the idea that we paid more than we would have other wise for Scola and Lowry by not extending them early, why would those players or other players around the league be upset about this situation? By that logic they are now making more money than they would have if the Rockets had offered them an early extension. Wouldn't that make the players happy?

    More likely the Rockets would have had to pay more than they did to secure an early extension, and had to deal with agent negotiations involving supposed better offers from other teams that the Rockets have no way to confirm.

    Matching restricted deals on the other hand puts the onus on the agents to find the best deal that any other team was willing to offer and have both the player and the other team sign the contract. If the Rocket's believed it was too high they could let them go. If they feel it's fair, they match and the player really has no reason to complain unless he just didn't want to play for the Rocket's regardless of money.

    I don't think the situation has any effect on star players like Carmello though. Star players get max contracts anyway, so there is no chance they are going to feel underpaid by the Rockets, and are likely to get extensions because with a max contract there is nothing restricted free agency is going to do to effect that max contract value.
     
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  16. sammy

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    Good. We need flexibility in the off-season.

    We have 33m committed to salaries next year.
     
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  17. redao

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    Green is perfect but not good enough to get an extension.
     
  18. DaJet

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    Green can be replaced by the Thunder by Collison, Ibaka or Aldrich.
     
  19. lalala902102001

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    I agree with the decision to not extend Brooks now. This Rockets team as it is constructed now is not a title contender. If you tie up too much money there is a good chance the team will become mediocre for years to come.

    The Rockets must make a decision on the direction of the team soon and it will likely take them this season to decide that. The decision starts with what do you want to do with Yao.
     
  20. jopatmc

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    Let's see...........Lou Williams, how much he make?



    Seriously, the handwriting is on the wall. Morey is doing exactly what the current CBA allows him to do. What the Rox are saying here is they are not sure he is a core part of what they are doing going into the future. They are keeping their options open at this point. They are not "sold" on Brooks like the Grizzlies are allegedly "sold" on Conley. And that's actually a good thing. No matter how you look at it, this is a business, and if Morey gave out "feel good" contracts, we would be the Houston Grizzlies. If you can't accept the downside of Morey in regards to player relations, then you can root for another team. But ultimately winning a championship revolves around what is best for this team, not about what is best for Aaron Brooks.

    I am confident that Morey has: 1. established a monetary contract value on Brooks that he is not willing to pay more than unless Brooks substantially ups his game this season; and 2. Morey knows better than any of us what Brooks' perceived value (both trade value and contract value) is around the NBA.

    Right now, in my humble opinion, Brooks is Lou Williams. (And I'm afraid, in fact I'm convinced, Lou Williams is actually the better player ....eek.....Shhhhhhh! Don't tell Dada.) Morey is keeping his options open and not overpaying like Memphis just did. And Morey will trade Brooks to another team willing to overpay for some decent outside shooting.
     

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