We know that she wasn't trying to hand Paul anything but show him a sign. We know how far she was trying to reach because we watched the video and saw it with our own eyes. She was trying to show a sign, and was flipping it around. Yes she moved on the car. That's not really a problem. The press and supporters do that to politician's vehicles all the time. A protester having the same access to do that as a supporter isn't unreasonable. When I said assault, and attacked the car I was talking to other people on this board who did say those things. There is a movement out there to make this woman seem like a threat, and problem. That's why you have these ridiculous claims about her. I don't think there is any need to make up stuff like that about what she was doing.
Earlier reports said that she was trying to hand him an award. She went right up to the window and was stopped, right? You sure offer her ever lenient interpretation possible. "Lauren L. Valle was paid by move-on.org to walk up to Rand Paul and give him a gag gift meant to show move-on’s belief that large corporations controlled the Republican party. Her rush at Paul alarmed Paul volunteers who restrained her and called for police. " http://www.gossipjackal.com/world/us/2010/10/27/rand-paul-stomp-supporter-booted/ I see a distinction between the press, supporters and protesters. The woman's way there was paid to make a disruption. We make all kinds of distinctions like that. If I went to your daughter's Sweet Sixteen party at some hotel and grabbed the microphone to embarrass her, I doubt you'd give me my 15 minutes of fame. We intervene in freedoms quite a bit and we forsake our freedoms quite a bit on behalf of decorum My point was that I didn't assert half the stuff that was bothering you and on which basis you directly called me paranoid on 2-3 occasions in this thread alone. You constantly marginalize your "opponents" here with that kind of subtle put-down. I, for one, choose to not let you get away with that kind of stuff. Intelligent people can disagree. Here we do.
The one thing that this idiot could have done to hurt his party, he did. A moronic move on his part, there is no excuse for this. However, I find it refreshing when people don't categorize the tea party as some right wing extremist group with violent and blood thirsty members who just want to kick and shoot everything, nice to see that we are above that. While we are on the subject, Obama surely believes in peaceful movements since he is friends with William Ayers. I mean, Obama has no radical leftist friends who have litterally bombed the U.S. and are recognized as domestic terrorists, of course not, he is the most straight laced politician this country has ever known.
You were wondering why the Reps put themselves in that position. I was explaining why they went that way. Well Valle didn't impede Paul either and again there is more proof that John Lewis was spit on than that Valle was trying to harm Paul. In one case we have Lewis' word in the other not even Paul has said that Valle was trying to harm him and all we have is the two guys who assaulted her, you and tallanver's speculation.
I would go so far as to accuse her of being an asshat but nothing she did was illegal. The difference is that your daughter's sweet sixteen party at a hotel is a private function. As noted Paul is running for public office in a public setting.
Why are the liberals here such jerks? I don't consider you a jerk, but most of the other liberals here are really vicious. It's almost enough to sour me on the Rockets.
Call people for what they've done, as soon as anything is mentioned of Obama or the dems, go straight to the insults, that's all that happens on this board. The fact is Obama is a a career politician, a community organizer, an academic. I didn't tell him to go hang out with William Ayers and be in the close circle of prominent U.S. communists and pan-leninists, that was all O.
Any political ideology taken to an extreme becomes a cult, and there are people on both sides who are fanatical and obnoxious because of it. Mix in religion and race, and it's not surprising that most political discussions turn juvenile and nasty.
That's exactly the problem, its the libs that play the race card and mock religion. So not only is everybody that doesn't agree with Obama a cold hard racist, they are also a bible beating fear mongering east tx slob, that's what the libs and their media cronies wants people to believe.
Both sides have their share of a-holes and zealots, and there are plenty of conservatives who are eager accept that role. You're mistaken if you believe otherwise.
Even were I an invited guest, I would be "escorted" off the stage I'm quite sure. Should I be able to sue if I got a boo-boo in the "stomping?"
And I love the title of this thread, Tea Party Violence, I commend you man, that is a catchy brand I think the masses of sheep can get behind. The Tea Party movement is just so ugh. I mean, why can't they do it like the socialist greeks who riot in the capitol city of their government or the french for that matter who shut down the whole damn country b/c they will not stand for the social injustice of working 2 more years for their government pension? I mean seriously, the tea partiers have got some catching up to do.
Absolutely, without a doubt, the Tea Party is THE most violent citizen uprising the world has ever known................let's just marginalize and brand everyone that's not drinking the Obama kool aid because "people are scared" and people obviously cannot think on the level of this saviour, therefore, everyone is just stupid if they can't see Obama's utopian society, I mean if these idiots could just be smarter, they would realize that king i mean president obama has this wonderful plan for us if we would just get it.
The community organizer figured out how we should really be running america, because community organizing certainly is not dependent on minority views, right. Community organizing, as a matter of fact, does a great job of assimilating the disenfranchised and sending everyone in the projects to higher level learning, right, helping people help themselves, or do they just give the leaders a whole bunch of power and influence over uneducated people and advocate the same vicious welfare state cycle b/c the government owes us something?
No, actually i really like myself, like a lot, like so much so that I don't really have the time to talk about how that's all you have to say
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Good Video but pretty ridiculous, this was some pos choking the guy and he didn't knock the **** out of him, it doesn't speak well of individual rights and the use of deadly force. If that had been me, I would have shot that liberal thug union pos in the head.
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