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[Official] Chiefs @ Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. theimpossibles1

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    Look at my previous few posts. I was the one who brought up the CBS analysts quote; the bud joke was in reference to the strange grammar he used (I think he was somehow trying to imply that I am a member of the Houston Texans because i said "we")
     
  2. bungle

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    Maybe not, but maybe somebody could make a play once in awhile if the opposing QB didn't take the snap, drop back, look at his watch, scratch his ass, smoke a cigarette, whip out his i phone to check his bank account, check down 4 receivers, then find his man, while our DL line with 2 first round picks and millions of dollars invested gets thrown around like rag dolls. I agree that our secondary sucks, but I still say this team's biggest problem this year and every other year since 2002 has been our pitiful pass rush. And it stings alot worse when you consider the investment this organization has made in the DL with money and draft picks. After all of that, they aren't even average. They just plain suck week in and week out. Year after year.
     
  3. BrooksBall

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    We've given up 167 points.

    The Steelers and Ravens combined have given up 155.
     
  4. MadMax

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    We "won"!!!! :grin:

    Strangest, most ominous win in franchise history.

    Nevertheless...4-2 with a negative point differential. :confused:
     
  5. emjohn

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    ...and while I knew it was probably foreshadowing, I mentioned this week that no Chief had caught 100 yds in a game so far this season. Bowe got 108 today against us.

    Additionally, we let three players (Bowe, Jones, Charles) each get 100+ yards today. That's a rare hat trick.

    Very happy we pulled it off. It says something that the offense and defense were at their best in the 4th.
     
  6. MadMax

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    Seriously, they're both bad...the secondary and the line. Both of them. Neither should get a pass because of the other.

    We don't stop the run.

    We don't stop the pass.

    Thank God we have an offense that can score 21 points in the 4th quarter.
     
  7. MadMax

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    he was a free agent in my fantasy league...i picked him up on Wednesday and started him. that is something i will look for all season long.

    i hope you can all appreciate you're watching history while watching this defense each week...it's never been worse. i don't care what the outcome of the season is...the defensive coordinator has to go.
     
  8. BrooksBall

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    That's certainly a positive but the slow starts at home is becoming a disturbing trend.

    What's up with this team's mentality that they lay so many eggs on their own turf?

    Does our crowd suck compared to others or is it purely on the coaches and players?
     
  9. Nick

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    I thought they came out flate against Dallas and NYG... but today, the Chiefs were the instigators and they were forcing the tempo early.

    The Texans tried to run, stopped. They tried to pass, deflected/pressured. And the Chiefs set the tone EARLY by going for two fourth downs on their first drive.

    Sometimes, you're going to get the best of another team, and its how you withstand that surge and respond that defines you. The Chiefs defense noticebly tired as the game went on... an dthe Texans defense, believe it or not, started to catch on to the hurry up offense of the Chiefs (albeit, they were still allowing long drives and FG's.).

    There's not much difference these days between good and bad teams in the NFL... and home field advantage has never meant less.
     
  10. Nick

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    Unlike baseball, you can make the playoffs here with a negative point differential.

    I'm pretty sure the Oilers had a 60-7 something loss to the Bengals, and made the playoffs... can't imagine they had a great point differential that year.
     
  11. emjohn

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    I think others in attendance can vouch, this year the crowds have been fantastic. We/they're DYING to scream their lungs out. Problem has been the team coming out like it's a scrimmage (DAL, NYG). They seemed fine today. I think a lot of folks underestimated how tough this KC squad really was. Our defense, especially when Mario is going half speed from nagging injuries, is atrocious. The offense needed to feel things out against a tough D, but they finally came up with answers in crunch time.

    I felt better about this win than the Washington one.
     
  12. BrooksBall

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    Interesting...

    Well, I guess the concern is that it seems like whether it's us being flat or opposing teams being better, we're playing from behind in almost every game, home or away.

    So, rephrasing my prev. question, why are we so rarely able to be the instigators or the team making the first push?

    It seems like that's been an issue going back a while now. Maybe I'm wrong and that's just false perception. We did score first against Indy and Oak and went on to win those games.
     
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  13. Nick

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    Yeah, you said it best yourself. We came out strong against Indy and Oakland. We came out flat against Washington, Dallas, and NYG. Today, we faced a pretty evenly matched team. While we didn't jump out to a big lead, we didn't let them run away with it early (like the NYG game).

    You can't be the instigators every game. So far, this season, we've only instigated a third of the games. However, in two of the other ones, we ended up being the team that had the last laugh. Much like last year, they're a team of two halves... and I guess if you had to be that way, you'd rather be the way they are now (a come from behind team, rather than a blow the lead team).

    And, in all honesty, this team currently plays higher quality level of football when they're behind rather than when they're up. Its part of the growing up process... and the more games they "lead", the more they'll know how to put games away.
     
  14. MadMax

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    1989 ...we lost 61-7 after having already wrapped up a playoff spot. Wyche was trying to make a point. Looks like that game accounted entirely for a negative point differential that season, as they had a negative point differential in the 50's.

    i'm not suggesting negative point differential is all that important...just that i'm trying to figure out what this current team is, and I seriously don't know. i thought i did...but i'm watching a defense that is historically bad right now.
     
  15. Nick

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    Chances are, the defense gets better... the offense starts to get more consistent... but the opponents also get tougher.

    So yeah... you have no idea what's gonna happen.
     
  16. mrdave543

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    I just saw the defensive pass interference call on the chiefs on the last drive, what a break for the texans. That shouldve been offensive interference, and im not sure what down it was, but that was huge game changer with under 2 minutes left.
     
  17. jtotheb

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    Regarding the defense, is it the scheme or the players?

    I have to admit, I've always been a Kubiak-backer...and really had no issues with his coaching staff. I know that there have been quite a few bad calls over the years, but there were also times where I felt he got unfairly blamed for boneheaded moves by the players.

    HOWEVAH -

    I'm starting to think that this defensive coaching staff is just not capable of getting the most out of THIS group of players. Maybe they would be successful with older, more experienced players..but I'm just not seeing an adequate amount of (or any) progress from week to week. I know they're "banged up"...but honestly, who isn't?

    I hope the defense makes the same strides as it did last season...but something needs to happen damn quick.
     
  18. BrooksBall

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    There is a lot more contact than what AJ did on that play that doesn't get called on a regular basis, particularly late in a game. Even if it was technically offensive PI, it wasn't lucky that it wasn't called since that little contact is almost never called in any situation. You could technically find PI on about 75% of plays if you wanted to call it by the book. It certainly wasn't egregious.

    If anything, it wasn't defensive PI which is a moot point since AJ caught the pass and the Texans declined the penalty.
     
  19. jtotheb

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    What about the RIDICULOUS pass interference call against the Texans early in the game? Kareem Jackson made a great play (surprise). This was definitely not a game with lopsided penalty calls against one team or the other.
     
  20. rhino17

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    Tony Dungy was saying that the pass interference was a blown call and that the Texans dont win without Andre pushing off on that play.

    Where exactly did he "push off?"

    It should have been a no call, there was almost no contact
     

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