Why are you so desperate to justify McCain and Shriver? Also as noted we are talking about speakers and not audience.
The point is that the largely sympathetic audience at Weldman's service were booing Trent Lott much like Richard Tillman was "essentially" booing after the fact remarks made by McCain and Shriver. I defend McCain and Shriver because I think there remarks are defensible not indefensible or offensive or callous as others have implied. Perhaps they could have found a "safer" way to say what they wanted to say but, also, perhaps this was a bigger deal to Richard Tillman than to anyone else.
They aren't offensive to you. That doesn't mean the remarks aren't offensive to anyone. To go to a funeral and impose your beliefs of on people who believed differently is offensive whether it was intentional or not. Bottom line is that is offensive and the speakers didn't care enough to learn the truth about the person they supposedly trying to honor. I'm sorry I'm still discussing this. I forgot that your view of memorial services is far out of the mainstream that I can't find common ground to discuss the issue with you.
1. In life you will come across people whose beliefs are different from yours; if you get offended every time that happens you'll be unhappy a lot. 2. In life you will hear differing opinions from yours, if you consider that an imposition you are out of touch with the reality of life. You seem to specialize in being offended and feeling imposed upon. Sack up.
I get far more offended by the back-handed insults that people here deliver than I do by the fact that they have a different belief about something than I do. Lots of people give lip-service to variety and diversity-- so long as it has their approved stamp. That is really just a lie. Certainly we all have our tolerance and intolerances and we will fail our own standards from time to time. That's just the demands of living. I can hardly get past that in this thread there are some who want to censor and condemn two people who articulated envisioning Tillman in heaven after his sacrifice...
I did neither. I said he acted regrettably out of his pain and then foolishly on Maher's show. I had no power to censor or condemn. It's okay to disapprove of things in a discussion, isn't it?
You have always been hostile to me; why should a joke be taken any differently. I think there is a general consensus that spouses are to be left out of it here.
I'm actually pleased in life in when both of things happen. At a funeral is not when I expect those things to happen in a public manner. Seriously, I don't expect those things at my funeral from speakers who were supposed to honor me, and speak about my life, and maybe even things I believed in and fought for.
