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[NY Daily News] Knicks still eyeing Melo, Rockets possibly helping?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    CAA is CP3's agent. Of course, come 2012 a lot of things will be different... CP3 might suffer career ending injury. Melo or Lopez might suffer career ending injury. NJN might just fall apart for chemistry reasons. NOH might become vastly improved and CP3 might not want to leave. Some other team might be offering CP a better situation than NJ, so while CP might say "Sure I am interested" right now, there is only so much he can "promise."

    The fact is, nobody can really promise who your teammate will be 2 years from now.
     
  2. RV6

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    thanks for poiting that out...that does change things and makes more sense


    trade bait i assume....well hill, pp, and jeffries, we'll definitely keep scola and chuck. Jeffries is actually valuable as a contract, i can't imagine it would be difficult to get something worthwhile for him. PP and hill are valuable as well, at worst they'll be very good back ups at the 4, more than likely they'll be decent starters.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    I'm not one to normally buy into the speculation, but . . .

    New York gets: Carmelo Anthony, Renaldo Balkman, $1.9M trade exception
    Denver gets: Danilo Gallinari, Eddy Curry, 2012 1st rd. pick (from HOU), right to swap 2013 1st rd. picks with NYK, 2014 NYK 1st rd. pick
    Houston gets: Anthony Randolph

    Knicks get Carmelo.

    Denver gets Gallo, two first rounders and maybe can move up in another draft. They also save ~$8-9M next season.

    Houston gets Randolph for the 2012 Knicks pick, still retaining its 2011 swap rights (albeit less valuable).
     
  4. leebigez

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    Robert Horry and Larry Nance both played sf as hybrid guys. Randolph is a helluva talent. He could start at the 3 and slide to the 4 against matchups. Odom is another 3/4 type guy. If they can get randolph, they should.
     
  5. brian_chapman

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    CAA is also with Lebron. They want lebron in the finals every year. They do NOT want a cp3/melo/amare knick team taking down the Heat every year.

    Thats why they are pawning melo to goto NJ so he can lose every year to heat.

    They also dont want melo to come to houston because cp3/hornets would never beat the rockets.

    Melo imo is just a pawn and will get set up to fail. Melo needs to drop caa asap and come to the rockets to win.

    But he wont . Because he is a dumbass. I think lala and beyonce are also with caa. This whole thing is a reason why im starting to not want melo.

    trading away lopez for cp3 is a joke. cp3 would NEVER agree to that because even a melo/cp3 team is average in the east. You need a bigman,melo wants to play with a big man.

    melo/amare is probably scaring caa because amare>bosh and melo holds his own against lebron.

    add a couple of role players to melo/amare and they can take down Heat.

    thats why id be stunned if melo goes to knicks. I think rockets are still in this, but i dont want him now. Way to much drama from caa.

    melo/lopez isnt good enough to beat even the knicks with amare and role players. Melo cant carry a team. He needs role players to help him. Rockets are his best choice but the dumby is all into rap stars and jayz so thats why he is obsessed with NY,...so what if hes born there,he just bought a massive house in LA , so he's going to be living in different cities anyways.

    Lala wants to sit on courtside msg to further her career and get pub. Melo wants to win with amare. I dont see how a drunk russian is going to prevent this? Another thing ,why does being russian matter? Everyone says "rich russian owner" ,it doesnt matter what country he is from, they should just say "rich owner".
     
  6. brian_chapman

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    why is everyone obsessed with Battier? Bench battier and start Randolph at sf.

    Budinger? cheerleader.
     
  7. RV6

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    maybe, but i think there's been some tampering for sure and NJ has reason to believe they have a solid shot at CP, assuming Melo is there...but that's too risky for Melo, since nothing is official or guaranteed.
     
  8. BimaThug

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    Randolph is talented, for sure. But he's not a great fit in the Rockets' starting lineup (no range from 3). He'd be much more effective off the bench for this team.

    If the Rockets get Randolph, they should try to trade Hill away for a future first round pick.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    I don't think the Rockets get AR for just the 2012 pick (which probably will be a mid to late 1st rounder). I think they either have to throw in a player (Hill? As some said, there are too many PFs around anyway) or the 2011 pick, or agree to eat Birdman.

    By the way, for those worried about where AR will play. He'll just have to earn his minutes and let Adelman decide. If he's really that good, he'll beat out the likes of Patterson, Hayes, maybe even Miller, Battier or Budinger for minutes.

    I think Morey will just try to collect as much talent as possible, see what happens in the games, then go on to the next step.
     
  10. BimaThug

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    Fine by me. I wouldn't give up Patterson, though.
     
  11. NJRocket

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    what im being told (and not that its gospel) is that NY is not giving up Gallo...and thats where the straight up NY-DEN deal died
     
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    alanhahn Re: Knicks: not involved as long as DEN shows no interest in dealing w/them. Again, Knicks prefer to sign him as FA and not gut roster

    alanhahn To clarify, DEN would like to save on current payroll for THIS season
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Frank Isola mentioned in an earlier article that Walsh (+ D'Antoni?) are firm about not giving up Gallo, but Isiah is trying to convince Dolan to give up anything Denver wants to get Melo.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.com/showthread.php?t=193213

    Quote from article below:


    In other words, Isiah is our friend. We need to root for Isiah now!!!!
     
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    Problem with Randolph is that he is expiring...and due for a big payday.

    Where the pick is a rookie contract...
     
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  15. BimaThug

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    Then how does the reported four-team deal help them. Even if they're shedding additional salary (Balkman to Utah?), they're still INCREASING their payroll with that trade.

    I can't think that Denver loves AK47 THAT much to take on more salary for next season when this is the perfect opportunity for the team to save several millions of dollars.
     
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    I disagree, Hill should be groomed as our center of the future. We have no long term solution there.
     
  17. Spacemoth

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    I can almost taste Worldwide Wes' and CAA's kool-aid from here.

    To every NBA player they talk up the concept of the owners as slavedrivers, how they're only profiting from the labors of truly talented. They probably mention how it's time to take back the power, to put it back in the hands of those who have earned it, to use a free agent monopoly to topple the greater monopoly that the establishment has set up over centuries by Old Money. They've got an inside man on the job (Jay-Z), but he can't do anything by himself.

    Ultimately, what they want to do is to shift mountains with the threat of a host of players who will not abide by the rules of free agency, who will not go to the location where they are offered the most money. The accumulation of power is their mission, and the players involved need to at least threaten to sacrifice their salaries in order to dictate who wins in the NBA for that to happen, even if in the end (and this is the stickler that the agents have to impress on the players) the players will NOT make any less than they could have before. It's just a matter of scaring the owners into complying with their demands.

    This is my interpretation of what's going on behind the scenes, at least with the young impressionable NBA stars currently under the wing of the WWW/CAA Coalition. In the end it signifies nothing, just that some people think they are bigger than they truly are. I don't know if Houston will ever have anything to do with those players, and I really think you'll see a sea change of sorts in coming years, a retaliation by the other NBA players to show that no, a few people cannot wrest control of the NBA away from the commish, the owners, and the system of free agency that they've established.

    We'll see though. It's interesting right now. Collusion which is permitted under the rules.
     
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    He has a team option... This assumption has been debunked numerous times in this thread already
     
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    funny u say that.....my buddy just texted me and said that Den is getting cold feet on the 4 way deal bc of Kirilenkos contract
     
  20. NJRocket

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    leave it Isiah to eff up the Knicks yet again!!!!!
     

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