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[ESPN] Donnie Walsh's monumental mistake

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AggieRocketsFan, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. SamFisher

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    Ultimately I think it was worth the gamble, I mean who would have predicted the whole superfriends scenario last spring? Could have just as easily been "superfriends take their talents to the Garden"
     
  2. dartherus

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    In fact, that's an additional gain for Houston in getting Melo, FO would be sure that NY would continue to suck, and the NY pick of 2011 will be far more valuable....

    So, it's another reason to be sure to get Melo no matter what, no matter if KM+Brooks are involved and will have to tacke a contact like Billups...

    A 3 way deal could be gotten by giving better assets to the 3rd team than what NY would offer....

    Getting Melo is urgent, for more reason than most fans see in the surface.
     
  3. FLASH21

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    I don't get this part. I know it's probably not much of a compliment to compare Reggie to Eddy Curry but he really wasn't calling him out of shape or a lazy bum like Curry.
     
  4. Commodore

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    Why would you ever publicly admit that kind of uncertainty as the head of an organization?

    It doesn't inspire confidence.
     
  5. Commodore

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    The point is you don't gut your roster and give away your draft picks unless you know you are getting a sure thing in return.

    Miami did it knowing they had the big 3 locked up. New York was operating on a wing and a prayer.
     
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    Very nice pic...I can't help but imagine Morey with a sinister laugh, its what this looks like.
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    You can't look back and say it was a mistake, they wanted to get rid of Jeffries contract and clear room for Lebron, they took the gamble and it didn't work out.

    Morey didn't see anything coming, come on.

    DD
     
  9. bung_ho

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    How do you know Miami knew anything?

    Nothing is for sure. Morey would be the first one to tell you that.
     
  10. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Why doesn't a team like San Antonio just give NY their 2012 pick in return for two future non-consecutive 1st rd picks?
     
  11. abc2007

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    If we still had Landry, the Melo trade would be done as well. ;)
     
  12. Aleron

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    I don't imagine a 1st round pick involving any perennial 2nd round+ team is particularly useful, they'd rather an early 2nd rounder to a late 1st rounder.
     
  13. Jerry36

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    After the regular season was over Pat Riley sent his season ticket holders a video message saying the heat were going to be a dynasty. Dwade quote, "Yeah, me and Lebron can play together." The heat already knew it was going to happen.
     
  14. Andy Sheets

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    He looks like a Bond villain whose plan for world domination just hit another milestone.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    And they knew this going in? So you stick with the crappy players you have and a mid-round future first instead of taking a shot? Right...by this logic, the Rockets screwed up royally too since Bosh was headed to Miami all along.
     
  16. bung_ho

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    Forgive me if I don't see this is proof of anything. If Pat Riley knew, then the entire rest of the NBA world -- sports media, the entire fanbase (including Miami season ticket holders) -- was completely in the dark leading up to The Decision.

    Even if it were true (which it's not), it doesn't change the fact that it's silly to say that you don't make a move unless you know what the final outcome will be for sure. If GMs had to operate under this philosophy, their jobs would be meaningless.
     
  17. bloop

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    The point is that if he's such a good GM and an NBA insider he should have known that in $$$tern's league something underhanded is going to determine who goes where. It was stupid of him to go all in without at least looking into tampering and influencing like Riley did and have some idea if he had a legit shot.

    Just as importantly when you take a gamble, you gotta have a plan b to live with the consequences. Walsh went all in stupidly with no plan B. If he'd just held onto that one draft pick he might have Carmelo right now.

    the difference with Houston is that they didn't assume Bosh was coming here. they took a gamble but also kept assembling pieces for plan B, C and D. it's likely that Morey didn't really expect Bosh and I'm CERTAIN that unlike the Knicks Houston had at least some contingency concerning Melo's extension and thought about 2011 as well as 2010
     
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    The location of this pic is especially fitting here.
     
  19. melvimbe

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    I seriously doubt that Morey had any idea that Melo would become available. However, I do think he considered the fact that they needed a star, it would be difficult for the the Rox to get below the cap to be able to acquire one outright, and that there would be a bigger window of time to acquire a superstar if you had assets instead of cap space.

    Honestly, I'm not quite sure that Walsh's other options were. If had skipped the deal with Houston, the Knicks would have been a little less appealing to FAs since they could only get one. Perhaps even Amare may have opted elsewhere in that scenario as well. The would have better assets to get someone else had the oppurtunity came up, but how can you predict that a guy like Melo would suddenly come up and put NY at the top of the list.

    At the time, I think it's definitely fair to say that NY had a better chance of getting a FA then swinging a deal for superstar through trade. They guessed wrong. The swung for the fences, but they weren't really likely to get a better pitch then that.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    morey is a great GM, but people worship him like he's god.

    the knicks are in a bad spot b/c of lebron. if i were the knicks, i just wait for chris paul to become a free agent.
     

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