Why do we think/hope Brooks is gonna be traded for Melo?

If AB is tossed into this trade, it's Lee whose role gets larger. He may even start if his handles are up to it. He'd be able to defend 1-3, while Martin/Melo play their piss poor D as usual. Lowry and Jermaine or Bud as backups. Lowry is a great piece, but the lack of 3pt shooting will hurt the guys that wish upon it.

There's a reason Aaron starts over Lowry--he's a better player. Lowry's good. Slightly above starting role good, but not as good as made out to be on this forum. I still like him in the backup role as a change of pace & pugnacious backup. I'd sincerely hope Lee's working on his handling abilities because yuo don't need a "true" PG in this offense. His defensive versatility is what would allow us to go "big" technically at the 1-spot.

 

At the end of the day, as we can see, we can't build around/rely on Yao.

What the Rockets can do, as we saw with him on the Nuggets, the Rockets can build around Melo.

If Brooks is the cost, so be it.

Lowry is a better fit with Melo on the team, and he can defend the 1 or the 2.

Brooks - Martin - Melo isn't too good defensively.

For Denver, yeah, they have Billups and Lawson, but we know Melo is the first chip to be dealt. They're going to be in rebuild mode, and Billups will eventually get traded. Along with KMart, etc

 

* Aaron Brooks is still on a good contract (an expiring rookie contract with Bird rights), whereas Martin is on a much bigger contract for more years.
* Though Aaron does not fill a position of need for Denver, he is a net positive in that he only takes up one roster spot and not much cap room, giving Denver flexibility for the future.
* As people have pointed out, Morey has a pension for three team trades, so in the event that Denver does not want Brooks, he can involve a third team that does.
* Aaron Brooks is younger than Martin
* Aaron Brooks is a "name" in that he was the face of the team last year, averaged 20 and 5, and won he "most improved player award".
* His stock is at an all-time high making him easier to sell to Denver's fan base.
* We just payed Lowry "starting point guard money", he has been wanting the job for a while, Morey is very high on him, and he has worked hard for the job. Lowry is more than capable of being a starting point guard. Dealing Brooks and giving Lowry more minutes allows him to earn his starting money.

* Melo is a volume scorer and so is Brooks, whereas Martin plays off the ball and is more efficient. His game compliments Melo more, whereas Brooks and Melo both shoot at a high rate with low efficiency.
* Trading Brooks for Melo gives us more size and shores up the defense at the one spot.
* Having Melo and Martin on the wings creates matchup nightmares for any team that doesn't have two elite wing defenders.
* Aaron Brooks for as good as he is, plays like an undersized shooting guard and on a team with Scola, Melo, and Yao (plus Martin), you'd ideally want more of a traditional PG, who can get all those scoring threats involved in the offense instead of a guy who will take shots away from the.
* While Aaron can knock down the open three (not a strength of Lowry's), he is not much of a spot-up shooter, much rather preferring to create off the dribble. Martin, Lee, Battier, and Budinger can all knock down threes anyway.
* With Yao playing limited minutes, a Melo/Martin tandem can create fouls at will, allowing Yao to wreck havoc and clean up when he comes in to the game. The same cannot be said for Brooks.


I hope this answered your questions.

 

Depends on who else is on the court. A lot of Brooks' time on the court was with Ariza, Battier, and Hayes and going up against other teams' first units, while Lowry went up against other bench players with better offensive players around him.

However, you said "The least efficient shot taker we have is Brooks. He is the one whose shots should be replaced by Melo". You only referred to shooting.

 

This is a fantastic, concise post.

 

Morey won't trade Brooks for Melo, in a three-way trade or otherwise. He's not an idiot. Morey will either get Melo without giving up any of the four core guys (Brooks, Martin, Scola, Yao), or he'll pass.

 

Even Landry was traded to get Kevin Martin.

I think Morey is good, but not that good to turn trash into Melo.

Either Brooks or Martin will be a part of a Melo deal.

 

Why does it take so much energy to realize the points that you just made. This.

 

Now you are making a point that I surmised about when we traded for Lee. I suggested at that time that he could possibly get point guard minutes. I know he can defend the 1 and in an Adelman offense where there is not a need for a primary playmaker, after watching him extensively at Western Kentucky, I believe he's got a good enough handle to split minutes with Lowry or Brooks at point guard if one of them is moved. Lee is a superior finisher at the rim to Brooks and he is very comparable from the 3 point line. I can see Lee playing point guard minutes for this team.

 

Melo is not a superstar, and Morey knows it.

 

The only way a deal with brooks works is if Aaron is traded to a third team and The nuggets are able to get a asset of need through Aaron's value from that third team.

One thing I have noticed form Morey is that he is a facilitator. He loves organizing three team deals.

The Lowry deal
The Martin deal
The Donte Greene \Dorsey deal.
The Lee deal

Thats four trades that come to mind that involved multiple teams.

Once a team emerges that values Aaron Brooks and has a asset that Denver wants our chances of getting Melo go way up.

 

Then trade Yao.

DD

 

The reason for why we won't trade Yao is as follows

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/32/basketball-values-09_NBA-Team-Valuations_Income.html

 

It is, but some points are incorrect, like Martin complimenting Melo's game more.

That is just not true.

Melo does not pass......Brooks does.....Brooks and Martin compliment each other well, Melo does not compliment either of them at all.

He compliments himself....there is only one ball, and Melo does not share it.

DD

 

While I do think you've overstated the whole Melo/Martin not playing well together idea, I can not disagree, Melo is a ballstopper. I am worried how this would playout in Rick's system. One thing about McGrady was that the fool could pass and very well, so dominating the ball was still okay for him but Melo is not the willing passer or as good a passer as he was.

 

Dada,

At least consider looking at a potential trade of Anthony for Brooks and other stuff this way......

The combination of Anthony with Lowry starting at the point facilitates ball movement more than the combination of Brooks starting at point and anybody else on our current roster at small forward. Last year it was Ariza, this year it is Shane or Budinger. None of those combinations is going to yield the assists and ball movement that we are going to get with the combination of Lowry and Melo on the court. Lowy and Melo are going to yield you more assists.

Lowry got 25 mpg or around that last year while Aaron played 36 or so mpg. This was by necessity since Aaron was the primary offensive option before Martin came over. Lowry is the better passer, the better facilitator, the better playmaker.

I'm still saying that we should replace Brooks' offense with Melo's offense and replace our small forward's passing, defense, finishing, and ball movement with Lowry's passing, defense, ball movement, and finishing.

I would much rather have my three primary offensive options being Yao, Melo, and Martin than I would have my three primary options be Yao, Martin, and Brooks.

Defensively, the combination of Lowry and Melo is at least as good as the combination of Brooks and Battier/Budinger. (In my opinion, defensively we get better with Lowry and Melo.)


I just don't see how you cannnot see that trading Brooks for Melo is a significant upgrade for this team.

 

Carl Landry will be a FA next season and has mentioned coming back. If we lose Brooks it will hurt our chances in signing him..perhaps.

 

Chris Paul will also be a free agent soon. Just sayin'. :grin:

 

Good point, Melo needed that role model who can point him in the right direction and Billups did great job, so having him next to Yao, Battier will get probably to be the best player in the league.