NY Times: Rockets preparing to offer Martin and Knicks draft picks for Carmelo

It has nothing to do with homerism. I'm not even that big of a Rockets fan. It has to do with me thinking Carmelo Anthony is an incredibly overrated player, which has nothing to do with the Rockets.

 

You must be smoking some good weed if you think Bosh or Gasol are better than Melo.

Bosh and Gasol are 2nd fiddle guys who couldn't lead their teams to anything relevant. Melo carried the Nuggets to the playoffs every season that he's been in the league.

Duncan, while good, is too old now and can't carry a team anymore.

Also Durant is debateable as well, but you could argue both ways and not be necessarily right or wrong.

 

Durant is not debatable. He is a top five player in the NBA, and if I had to pick only one player to build around, it would be him.

Basketball is a team sport. I do not measure players by whether their team makes the playoffs, or how much success they find in the playoffs. The Nuggets have a much, much better supporting cast than Toronto ever did.

Gasol has been shouldering more of the load for the Lakers lately than he's been given credit for.

 

what i think is that if the trade goes down like that Morey will always get a asset that for sure.

i was checking we can end getting a shooting guard in that trade and we need that shooting guard deep

we can send one of the draft picks done deal


IN MOREY I TRUST

 

Kevin Martin doesn't sell tickets, Carmelo Anthony does

 

Ya we have a decent shot.

Bill Simmons just said that there is no way that Melo will re-up with the Nets, which makes me think we have the best shot.

 

My thoughts exactly. Haven't been to the board for a while and clicked on this thread expecting so see a conversation on whether the trade was equal. Rather every 10 post or so seems to say we don't need Melo, Martin is better.

Melo is a franchise player, Martin is not. End of story.

 

Finally someone got it right.

 

^^^^^^

 

Melo is not a franchise player. People just think he is.

 

He has carried the nuggets to the playoffs since his rookie year, martin has yet to do that in his career.

 

If the team does lose Kevin Martin, I suppose you are really getting a better version of him, in Melo. More expensive...but better.

Losing Brooks might hurt more?
He is a bit younger, and seems to be on the verge of being an all-star point guard. But then again, Kevin could potentially be set to return to his status, before injuries.

 

a franchise player = guaranteed playoffs. you need more in order to win a championship. his team has made the playoffs EVERY year with him being their best player. so he is a franchise player.

KG never got past the first round for 8 years and he was a franchise player. tmac was a franchise player in his prime and he never got past the first round.

 

Right because Gasol never carried his team to the playoffs?

'Melo was also a constant first round exit failure until Billup.

 

And Yet Martin's team doesn't make the playoffs and Carmelo's does and in some cases makes the WCF.

If it were all about stats, Martin would be one of the all time great players. But he's not. Why is that?

 

I would question Nowitzki and CP3 as well. I like CP3 but I don't think he has the ability to take over a game like Melo, especially over the last 2 years. And Nowitzki's best chance was behind him, and he folded like wet blanket while DWade grabbed the ring right in his face. Melo has his issues, but when he is focused he is just plain elite. Durrant, DWill, DWade, Kobe, and James are the only other players with that potential.

 

This is a stupid argument and people should stop making it. Basketball is a team sport. It's not "my best player vs. your best player", it's "my ten (or so) players vs. your ten (or so) players".

The Denver Nuggets have had a very good team for years. Melo hasn't "carried them" to anything; they have had a lot of good players.

 

The difference between Martin and Melo is that Martin can't lead you. He'll take his shots when he's comfortable. But out of his zone in crunch time when the pressure is on - he's not nearly as effective and not going to do what you need from him - lead.

Melo will. You can give him the ball and get a decent shot off. He can do lots of different things, and most of all, he can handle the pressure and still perform at a good clip.

And that's why you pay super stars the big bucks.

 

Having Melo and yao would also attract other big name players to want to come here and contend, it's been hard for morey to get players to come here because of the lack of star power that other teams have.