That Liberal Media Volume XVIII: Tax cut = Tax Increase

Every drug that is already on the DEA list of banned drugs. Making the FDA disappear does not change the fact that the DEA is already going after mar1juana, cocaine, heroin, etc.

I agree with you that we should end the war on drugs, but I couldn't disagree more about getting rid of the FDA. It won't accomplish what you want (deficit reduction), it is not necessary for ending the war on drugs, and it will have a lot of negative consequences that you're ignoring or underestimating.

 

The DEA bans those drugs because the FDA says they are harmful. It is the FDA's decision what drugs a person is allowed to take. The DEA is just the militant arm that enforces it. The answer is in the DEA acronym "Drug Enforcement Administration". They do the enforcing not the decision making or research.

 

Bush was not a free market supporter in any sense of the term. He was no economic capitalist. how do you think he got so much passed even with Democrats running Congress?

 

No, they wouldn't. Congress would have to separately dismantle or defund each agency.

The FDA doesn't make that determination alone, they do it in conjunction with the DEA. Read the CSA if you don't believe me.

 

The DEA bans those drugs in order to ensure that certain people make a lot of money.

It's not about taking care of the health of the people. It's all about bling and power.

 

If all drugs are legal (and they would be if you got rid of the FDA) then the DEA has nothing to enforce. The FDA spends 10-15 years studying drugs and then passes a judgement based on that decision. Not the DEA. The DEA would not exist if the FDA was eliminated. How would the DEA know what was harmful without the FDA? Would they guess? The FDA makes these decisions.

 

The Constitution empowers the government to promote the General Welfare.

The closest a libertarian utopia one can find in reality is some third world nation that doesn't have the power to regulate.

 

You don't understand the CSA. Get back to me after you educate yourself.

 

Do you really think if the FDA was eliminated tomorrow, the DEA suddenly wouldn't know whether or not cocaine and heroin are bad for people and should be banned?

 

You've really given this a lot of thought, haven't you? At least a couple of minutes.

If we eliminate the police department does that make murder legal?

 

It doesn't work with everybody, and it doesn't work that well when the majority of voices are counteracting it. But keep the faith, it just might happen.

 

The DEA doesn't make decisions on whether cocaine/heroin is bad for people. The FDA does. By dismantling the FDA I am implying that all FDA policies would be done away with. Thus cocaine/heroin would be legal.

 

I need to keep KingCheetah's unlikely pic onhand. There are sane libertarians who use it as a principle, and there are others who take it with naive, narrow minded ideological zeal.

 

And there are young people who have narrow minded ideological zeal because it makes sense to them and they haven't been exposed to or experienced enough else. Give them enough to chew on and they become more reasonable with time.

Unlikely doesn't mean impossible.

 

The FDA is not continually doing tests to determine whether or not cocaine/heroin is bad for people. That decision has been made. I am implying that those laws are already in place and simply eliminating the FDA does not eliminate them.

 

tallanvil, if they abolish the FDA can I start selling beads of mercury as medicine again?

I like to fish with dynamite and water my lawn with DDT, can we abolish the Parks and Wildlife Department and the Environmental Protection Agency, too?

 

Correct you would need to also do away with FDA policies when you get rid of the FDA. I thought this went without saying. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

You should water your lawn with DDT. DDT is awesome. The FDA doesn't make policies on dynamite (not sure what point you're making). Parks and Wildlife Department doesn't infringe on my rights (the FDA does; my right to put whatever I want in my body), it's the government's land so they can do what they want with it so I have no real big beef with it's existence. I can also see a need for the EPA.

 

By your own logic, eliminating an agency (FDA) makes hitherto illegal acts, no longer illegal.

It doesn't surprise me that the point would be lost on you.