Since all of us are looking for a new topic besides Seattle's cap room(or atleast I am), I have a wild trade idea. Why don't we send Cato, Drew,Kenny Thomas, and Orlando's future first rounder for there first round pick next year and cash. It would: 1)Give us some more cap space. 2) Give us a surefire lottery pick in a draft that could have Gerald Wallace, Terrence Morris,Brenden Haywood, Loren Woods, Baby Shaq, Baby Karim, and Shane the Pain(ima UNC fan). 3)It would put us in a position simular to Orlando's right now and give us cap room to sign either 3 1st round draft picks and/or room to sign a Chris Webber or a Rashad Lewis (assuming he signs a one yr deal with Seattle). ------------------ "There are two rules for success... 1) Never tell everything you know."
I meant trading those guys for th Wizards first round pick. ------------------ "There are two rules for success... 1) Never tell everything you know."
If we were to trade Cato and KT, we would probably have a higher pick than the Wizards (probably #1) as we would win about 10 games. We should try to progess, not regress. ------------------ "When your dead, anything's funny."-John Lennon
lousy idea. next. ------------------ My girl wants to ... party all the time! party all the time! party all the time!
First of all,it wouldnt work cap wise since washington does not have cap room,where would they fit in all of those salaries? Second,who would be our center??we could draft one with next years pick but we would still be left with lots of wholes in our roster. Third,here is my trade idea.It's a two year plan(I dont say they are real possibilities but since they have allready been discused in the board and are beneficial for all teams i will try them) This year: -Trade cato,drew and part of the exeption to chicago for fizer and hawkins. Justification: we get our go to PF and hawkins is a FA next summer so we clear some room when needed,chicago gets their center,gets rid of some salary so they have more space this year when they need it and get a good PG(oeilpere has said he has better value than we all think) -Trade KT,Bull and the rest of the exeption to detroit for williams,vaught(want to get rid of his contarct)and any other throw in for the salaries to match so that detroit can clear as much room to sign Rose and taylor(We help them to justify giving us someone like williams) -Sign tyrone washington for the minimum just in case we are thin at center(It has been said he improved a lot during this year i italy) -The obvious and most important one:resign cat The final roster this year would be: C-Olajuwon/Collier/Washington PF-Fizer/J.Williams SF-W.Williams/Langhi SG-Anderson/Mobley PG-Francis/Norris Next year we just do what orlando did this year:We trade all of our picks and some of the less needed players(Los,vaught,etc) to get cap space and we keep just the highest pick,even trade up if necessary to get the best center(woods or Baby shaq). Then with the cap space we sign the SF for the future:Lewis if he does sign for just one year with seattle or any other option if he doesnt.With the rest we compensate shandon real well(a NICE contract) and sign the draft pick and our other FA's for a final roster of: C-Woods/Collier/Washington PF-Fizer/Williams SF-Lewis/Langhi SG-Anderson/Mobley PG-Francis/Norris Just looking at that gives me such a smile in my face,too bad it is just dreamcasting ------------------ "Dont ever understimate the heart of a champion" Rudy T,1995
you're idea sounds better except i would pick baby shaq instead of woods ------------------ "There are two rules for success... 1) Never tell everything you know."
I'd be hardpressed to justify Curry over Woods. If that scenario were to happen, I'd definitely take Woods, a super defensive center that runs like a gazelle, which would fit our team better. I must say, that team would have me drooling. Other options include instead of going after Woods, picking up Ken Johnson (athletic 7 footer, that averages over 5 bpg, no offense at all though), and also getting Terrence Morris. I just love how T-Mo fits on this team chemistry wise, and talent wise (you can never have enough 6'9'' defensive minded SFs with a sweet 3 pt stroke, super athleticism, and post up ability, who are close friends with your team's superstar.) ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
Its a little early to start talking about next years draft class, but since we're on the subject, personally I was suberply disappointed with Terrence Morris' play this year. I realize he played in a tough conference and got a lot of attention, but he did not do many special special things for the team. All the games I saw he seemed to kind of just loaf around and try and do something here or there. I realie it is college and it all changes in the NBA, but the truly great players still play superbly in college. The MJ's, HAkeem, ELton Brand, Steve Francis, Vince Carter, JAson Kidd, Grant Hill. Of course, a lot of great college players also turn out to be busts. Terrence didnt have a terrible year, but it wasnt too too impressive for me. I mean, he was a player of the year candidate going into the season and it is arguable if he was even the best or most consistent player on his team. That being said, Im not too psyched about Woods either, especially with the back injury. I havent seend much of baby Shaq and know he is really young, but he sounds better to me as of now. I dont know why everyone is insistent on us getting a tall, long real athletic type. I mean, those players are good, but so far, it has been proven that to win, you need an actual banger down low (of course Fizer would be that if we got him). I mean KG is real good, but the TWolves have yet to escape 1st round peril and they also have a good PG. Even Portland, with all their talent and the tall, lanky Rasheed have fallen two striaght years to a team with a true center who can dominate them. Athleticism is a spot I like for a tall SF who can sometimes play the 4. FOr my center I prefer a real banger. Either way, Im sure I would be pleased though! ------------------ When I die I want to go peacefully like my grandfather. Not screaming like the passengers in the back seat!
Rocket Guard, Great trades. It'd be great to see Dream as our starting center in his last year playing like he used to. What a way to go out. However, let's assume that Lewis signs with another team & we can't get him. How about (as has been speculated in other threads) we trade Drew,Cato,& KT to the Clippers for Kandi & Maggette or Miles? They get a starting PG,PF,& center to replace Kandi. We get a young,athletic SF & center to replace Cato. Collier slides into the starting PF slot.(assuming he can handle it) Also,trade Walt,Bull,+ the 4.5 exception for Williams & Vaught as you suggested. I don't know how all this works out as far as the cap goes,but this is the meat of my proposal. Giving us a lineup of: C: Dream/Kandi/Washington PF: Collier/Williams/Los SF: Maggette/Langhi SG: Anderson/Mobley PG: Francis/Norris After Dream steps down, we'll be left with a young athletic team. And we should be able to pick up some good talent in the draft. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Hottoddie (edited July 09, 2000).]
Hottodie- Clipps are stupid, but not THAT stupid. Since we're are on the topic of next year's draft class, I have another name to throw out there.Baby Karim, a high schooler from Compton California.This guy is supposedly the next Wilt and Karim, but that's all I know. Another guy to watch out for is Gerald Wallace, THE best player in next year's draft. ------------------ "There are two rules for success... 1) Never tell everything you know."
Baby Kareem = Tyson Chandler ------------------ You ain't gotta like me, you just mad cause I tell it how it is, and you tell it how it might be.
If Lewis were to sign for more than one year we just trade that High pick for two lower ones and pick Johnson and morris as said before since their are predicted to go(yeah I know its early and things can change) late and in the middle of the first round respectively.I know they would too fit in perfectly and it would be cheaper but just the thought of having woods is great,he may be the first pick next year. ------------------ "Dont ever understimate the heart of a champion" Rudy T,1995
why would the clips need drew as a "starting pg" they did great on draft day which is kind of a start to make up for so many stupid decisions. they have theyre new pg is dooling. but what im wondering is what are they gonna do with QRich/Miles/Odom/Maggette. obvioulsly they cant all play the whole game. i think they trade one or two of them. maybe if the rockets TRY they could trade them Collier since Strong is obvioulsly not a starting pf. this is all just an idea, and im not saying we trade just collier for one of them straight up. its just i dont know about all of you but i am very disappointed we got him and I dont wanna keep him. ------------------ The Rockets Championship in 2001...Be-Steve-it
SuperS32, That would not be a stupid trade. The Clipps get a starting PF & PG that won't eat into their cap space much. The center swap is a wash or I believe they might take on another million in salary(it seems I heard that in another thread somewhere). Cato is locked in for another 4 years giving them stability at the position. If Cato has truely recommitted himself, then they get a potentially great young center. Drew will prove all the naysayers wrong about his ability when he gets some consistent minutes as the starter. KT, I believe, will only get better in time. The Clipps have a logjam at the 3 position & this will allow them to address some other needs without using up their cap space. lewie221, Drew would bring some veteran leadership into one of the toughest positions on the floor to play. Dooling has lots of potential, but until he proves it on the court, it is just that. However, with Drew starting the first year, Dooling will have time to grow into the position without being thrown to the wolves like Francis was. If you remember, Steve was making a lot of mistakes early on and I doubt that Dooling will be as good as Francis. These however, are just my opinions and Lord knows, we don't have enough of those. ------------------
yeah i understand that but im still sure that dooling would get most of the minutes. but what im most concerned about is the what will they do with Maggette/Odom/Miles/QRich we know they all cant get the minutes they deserve, and when u think about it that is kind of sad. when young up and coming stars cant get the minutes they need on the clippers...also what does orlando plan on doing with Hill/Mcgrady/Miller? i understand that tmac can play sg and possibly pf(look at the blocks!) and the rockets seemed to be VERY interested in Miller. and IF they were to sign hill/tnmac/duncan, they would still be short a center. we could possibly trade them Collier and Walt and the future magic pick(can they get it back im not so sure on this!) for mike miller. this could work out good for both teams. the magic could get a young center that would be perfectly happy grabbing rebounds and playing defense for the very talented magic team. mean while, the rockets get their small forward without making mobley angry because miller would just take walts place, not tag in on mobleys minutes. i know this is all fantasy talk(i have no clue if it would work out salary wise after the magic sign all of those free agents) but this could be fun!!!! ------------------ The Rockets Championship in 2001...Be-Steve-it
