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That Liberal Media Volume XVIII: Tax cut = Tax Increase

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. tallanvor

    tallanvor Member

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    So we are agreed then that someone who uses personal attacks is a troll (inflammatory)?
     
  2. mc mark

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    I disagree. I think he knows exactly what he's doing.
     
  3. Dubious

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    Not a troll by definition.

    A fool? a stooge? a dupe? wrongheaded? obstinate? intransigent? pertinacious?
    misguided? obdurate?

    I think he is actually arguing from a position moral absolutism as a defense against his real identity. Like those fundamentalist preachers that are really gay.

    Some day he will walk into the local food bank and just break down in tears of empathy, hugging all the poor and unwashed, choking out "I'm here, I'm here to help the people".
     
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  4. Deckard

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    That would imply that he might be someone we know, IMO. Is that possible? He doesn't seem smart enough.
     
  5. mc mark

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    President Obama today --

    Obama Hits GOP On Tax Cuts: No More Games

    President Obama this afternoon challenged Republicans to join with Democrats to pass an extension of the Bush-era tax cuts for middle class Americans earning $250,000 or less "right now", saying it's something that everyone agrees upon and lawmakers should set politics aside.

     
  6. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Now you're calling someone out on his definition of the word troll? Aren't you the same guy who didn't know what 'Islamophobia' meant? Didn't you make several posts arguing that prejudice against Muslims wasn't 'Islamophobia' because you weren't actually "afraid" of Muslims?
     
  7. tallanvor

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    Nope, he called out my definition of "troll"
     
  8. Phillyrocket

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    Rand's ultimate sycophant finally gives in to common sense:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_greenspan

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Former Federal Reserve chief Alan Greenspan said on Wednesday all Bush-era tax cuts should be allowed to expire at the end of the year in order to rein in the budget deficit and stop it from crowding out private investment.

    Reversing a long-standing aversion to tax increases, Greenspan warned of "very grave problems ahead" if the budget deficit, swollen to around $1 trillion by massive amounts of stimulus spending, is not tackled soon.

    "I am in favor for the first time in my memory of raising taxes," Greenspan told an audience at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

    "I would love to see taxes go down, and I would hope that what we would do is we allow the tax cuts, the so called Bush tax cuts, all to lapse as they will ... on December 31 and then gradually bring the level of expenditure down," he said.
     
  9. mc mark

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    By the way, can anyone explain to me why the Tea Party is being so quiet about this?

    Shouldn't the Tea Party be all in Obama's corner on this issue?
     
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  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's a socialist trick!
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    The tea party has no actual ideals, other than being against Obama. But you knew that, of course.
     
  12. Raven

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    Democrats cannot retreat on this issue. It would be a disaster. Not just for them but for America.
     
  13. mc mark

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    But here is an issue that the Tea Party has been screaming for. Keeping taxes low for the middle class. It just seems to me that they would be applauding the president on this. and yet...crickets.

    It almost seems like they aren't paying attention. That or they do have some other agenda.
     
  14. rhadamanthus

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    Allow me to repeat myself...

    I submit the above situation as evidence. Even when they agree, they cannot actively support Obama. That would be blasphemy!
     
  15. Dubious

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    As we have been discussing with Tanallover (Boehner ?) if the Tea Party thinks at all, they think what they are told to think by the corporations that control their media.

    In the attempt to organize and control 'movements' you need a lockstep on a unilateral position, staying on a single message to appear strong, committed and unwavering. Thinking people know there are always diverging interests in the complexities of public policy, changing alliances, nuances of language and unintended consequences that require reconsideration. That's why the real 'big tent' party always seems so disjointed and can't seem to articulate a message. Because there is no single message that encompasses groups.
     
  16. mc mark

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    oh my ---

    Rasmussen Poll: Coons Leads O'Donnell By 11, Race Shifts To Dems

    The new Rasmussen poll of the Delaware Senate race, conducted yesterday in the aftermath of conservative activist Christine O'Donnell's upset win in the Republican primary, shows Democratic New Castle County Executive Chris Coons with a double-digit lead.

    The numbers: Coons 53%, O'Donnell 42%. The survey of likely voters has a ±4.5% margin of error. In the previous Rasmussen survey from two weeks ago, Coons led O'Donnell by 46%-36% -- and Rep. Mike Castle, the moderate Republican who O'Donnell defeated on Tuesday, led Coons by 49%-37%.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    mc mark, you poor naive s.o.b. This your first time dealing with the Rasmussen Narrative Setting Game?

    Going to start with a modest lead for Coons, in the context of the lunatic he's running against, then a gradual creeping uptick to O'Donnell so he can start selling the story about "momentum", then classify it back to "toss up", building speculation about the Republican rout coming soon.

    This will of course be an outlier, and the race will not end up being a toss-up, but nobody will care, accurate forecasting is simply not hte point of the Rasmussen Narrative Setting Game.
     
  18. mc mark

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    Of course you are correct Mr Fisher!

    At least about the Rasmussen Narrative Setting Game.

    As far as being a poor naive s.o.b., well?

    sorry for the derail...


    :grin:
     
  19. uolj

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    No. Not sure what that has to do with my posts, either. Do you have an opinion on whether your actions fit my description?

    To explain the "no" more fully, just posting personal attacks isn't enough to be a troll. Posting personal attacks without regard to the topic in an attempt to get an emotional response would make you a troll. People who post personal attacks in the middle of discussing or arguing a point are wrong for doing so, but "troll" isn't the right word for it.
     

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