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3 christian aid workers who wanted to help flood victims killed by Islamists

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Pakistani Taliban Kills 3 Foreign Christian Aid Workers

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (Compass Direct News) – Authorities on Wednesday recovered the bodies of three Christian relief workers who had been kidnapped and killed by members of the Pakistani Taliban in the flood-ravaged country, area officials said.

    Swat District Coordination Officer Atif-ur-Rehman told Compass that the Pakistan Army recovered the bodies of the three foreign flood-relief workers at about 7 a.m. on Wednesday. An official at the international humanitarian organization that employed the workers withheld their names and requested that the agency remain unnamed for security reasons. Military sources who withheld news of the deaths from electronic and print media to avoid panicking other relief workers granted permission to Compass to publish it in limited form.

    “The foreigner aid workers have been working in Mingora and the surrounding areas,” Rehman said. “On Aug. 23 they were returning to their base at around 5:35 p.m. when a group of Taliban attacked their vehicle. They injured around five-six people and kidnapped three foreign humanitarian workers.”

    Pakistan has been hit by its worst flooding in decades, with the United Nations now estimating more than 21.8 million people have been affected. Foreign aid workers are involved in relief activities across the country, including Swat district in Khyber-Paktunkhwa Province in northern Pakistan. At least 8 million people require emergency relief, with hundreds of thousands reportedly isolated from aid supplies.

    An army Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) source said rangers have been deployed in Swat and other potential target areas to help provide security for relief workers.

    “The Taliban had warned about attacks on foreigner aid workers and Christian organizations,” the ISPR source said. “All the international humanitarian organizations have been notified, and their security has also been increased.”

    Rehman noted that the Taliban also has been trying to bring relief to flood victims.

    “The Taliban are also trying to support the flood victims, and many other banned organizations have set up camps in southern Punjab to support the victims,” he said. “They intend to sympathize with the affected and gain their support.”

    The president of advocacy organization Life for All, Rizwan Paul, said the bodies of the three relief workers had been sent to Islamabad under the supervision of the Pakistan Army.

    “We strongly condemn the killing of the three humanitarian workers,” Paul said. “These aid workers came to support us, and we are thankful to the humanitarian organizations that came to help us in a time of need.”

    Pointing to alleged discrimination against minorities in distribution of humanitarian aid, Paul added that Christians in severely flood-damaged areas in Punjab Province have been neglected. The majority of the effected Christians in Punjab are in Narowal, Shakargarh, Muzzafargarh, Rahim Yar Khan and Layyah, he said.

    “The Christians living around Maralla, Narowal, and Shakargarh were shifted to the U.N.- administered camps, but they are facing problems in the camps,” he said. “There are reports that the Christians are not given tents, clean water and food. In most of the camps the Christians have totally been ignored.”

    Life for All complained to U.N. agencies and the government of Pakistan regarding the discrimination, but no one has responded yet, he said.

    “There have been reports from Muzzaffargarh and Layyah that the Christians are living on the damaged roads in temporary tents, as they were not allowed in the government camps,” he said.

    In Sindh Province Thatta has been flooded, and around 300 Christian families who tried to move from there to Punjab were forbidden from doing so, a source said. Meteorologists are predicting more rains in coming days, with the already catastrophic flooding expected to get worse.

    Kashif Mazhar, vice president of Life for All, said that in the northern province of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa conditions for Christians are better as there are Christian camps established, and Garrison Church in Risalpur is also providing aid to victims.

    “It is discouraging to see that the Christian organizations are wholeheartedly supporting the victims regardless of the religion or race, but in most of the areas the Christians are totally ignored and not even allowed to stay,” Mazhar said.

    Foreign targets are rarely attacked directly in Pakistan, despite chronic insecurity in the nuclear-armed state, which is a key ally in the U.S.-led war on Al Qaeda and the Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan. On March 10, however, suspected Islamic militants armed with guns and grenades stormed the offices of a Christian relief and development organization in northwest Pakistan, killing six aid workers and wounding seven others.

    The gunmen besieged the offices of international humanitarian organization World Vision near Oghi, in Mansehra district, of the North West Frontier Province. Suicide and bomb attacks across Pakistan have killed more than 3,000 people since 2007. Blame has fallen on Taliban and Al Qaeda-linked militants bitterly opposed to the alliance with the United States.

    The U.N. decided last year to relocate a limited number of its international staff from Pakistan because of security concerns. Its World Food Program office in Islamabad was attacked in October last year, with five aid workers killed in a suicide bombing.

    Then on Feb. 3, a bomb attack in the NWFP district of Lower Dir killed three U.S. soldiers and five other people at the opening of a school just rebuilt with Western funding after an Islamist attack.

    http://www.christianpost.com/articl...aliban-kills-3-foreign-christian-aid-workers/
     
  2. Depressio

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    The Taliban kills people? :eek:
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    Wow ATW holding back. He could easily have said

    3 christian aid workers who wanted to help flood victims killed by brown colored people
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    You two are useless.
     
  5. Depressio

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    Posting articles with no opinions of your own involved is rather useless, too. Should we just call you basso?
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    How is it useless? It can lead to debate and discussion. That is unless people like you prefer to make dumb, irrelevant comments instead.

    The mere fact that you felt the need to say "the Taliban kill people?" shows how numb some many people (not only numbskulls like you) have become to the cruelties that are going on there. It's not even newsworthy...even though it is systematic murder, supposedly based on religious motives. When a single, obviously mentally confused person attacks a cab driver in New York, some of y'all are all up in arms about it.
     
  7. Depressio

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    Organizations have been killing others for ethnic/religious reasons since the dawn of religion (millennia). The Taliban is one such organization and exactly why the United States is trying to eradicate their existence. This is known. This is irrefutable.

    It sucks that aid workers are getting kidnapped/killed by the Taliban in Pakistan. It's absolutely deplorable that anyone would kill someone that's trying to help for some skewed religious belief. It's insane stupidity and the world would be better off without such behavior. I'm not numb to it.

    That said, it happens all the time and it's not just "Islamists"; they might be a more recent offender, but throughout history they are certainly not alone. Not by far.

    I don't view the murdering/killings as a product of Islam like you appear to, however. I view it a group of terrorists (the Taliban) doing murderous/terrible things normal people (and normal Muslims) wouldn't do. You appear to continue to harp on how Islam is a religion that prompts these sorts of things even though there has been overwhelming evidence from Muslim posts of this not being true. And I'm the "numbskull"?

    Every article you post about someone killing someone else in the name of Islam is nothing but baiting and trying to spread your idea that Islam breeds such activity. Yet, when people continue to post that your corrupted idea isn't correct by showing you what Islam is or how real Muslims behave and what they believe, while you give the guise of being interested, you really couldn't give a crap. You'll see an article the next day about someone being killed in the Middle East and your view will be right back where you started: Islam = terrorist.

    You are a complete waste of my time, that's why I don't respond seriously to your posts. Your hidden bigotry and Islamaphobia absolutely disgusts me and you are truly what is wrong with the United States and are a contributing factor to the current dividing state of the country. Tallanvor is up-front with his bigotry and makes no means to hide it whereas you continually try to play it off as if you're not a bigot and you're truly interested in what being Muslim is, but as you continue to make ignorant posts about it, it becomes obvious that you don't give a crap.

    Bravo on the random personal attack, BTW. Does it feel good to call people "numbskulls"? Did it make you happy in the pants?
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Yes, you are a numbskull:

    1) Nobody forces you to click on the thread, so don't whine about your time being wasted.

    2) Your "you disgust me" holier-than-thou routine is pathetic.

    3) The fact that you are a complete numbskull is proven by you pretending to have read any of my posts over the last few years and not having realized that I do not live in the United States, nor am I American. Yeah, but I am "truly what is wrong with the United States and a contributing factor to the current dividing state of the country".

    [​IMG]
     
  9. BetterThanI

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    Wow, ATW just got

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  10. AroundTheWorld

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    You wish. It certainly takes more than a blabbering post by someone who has obviously not read my posts, but likes to grandstand as a little self-righteous prick who makes assumptions about my intentions.
     
  11. Depressio

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    I didn't whine about my time being wasted, I said you are a waste of time. There is a difference.

    A great "NO YOU" retort. You deserve a cookie!

    I hardly read your posts these days and obviously I haven't been on the forum "over the last few years," so I was unaware of such information. My mistake.

    Your thought-process, however, is shared amongst many Americans and that thought-process is what's wrong with this country. You know, the "evidence be damned, I think what I want to think!" sort of thought. Is that a bit more clear to you, or are you going to nitpick that general idea, too?
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    You did whine. Same difference.

    For someone who admits to not having read my posts, you are certainly quick with assumptions about my intentions and with big words about all that is supposedly wrong with the posts.

    Clear case of self-ownage by you here by having to admit that you did not even read my posts. Not reading the posts, but then coming on here like a pompous ass who knows my intentions = double fail.
     
  13. Depressio

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    Sad that you can't understand the difference. Oh well.

    Buddy, I don't have to read your posts, I just have to see the titles. Here's all your D&D threads in 2010:
    • 3 christian aid workers who wanted to help flood victims killed by Islamists
    • Radical muslim cleric calls on islamists to behead Geert Wilders
    • Moderate Islam - does it exist? If yes, how do YOU define it?
    • Article about issues in the Muslim world - from a Pakistani media source
    • Dictator Chavez steals second Hilton hotel in Venezuela
    • Why are women not allowed into the main prayer hall in most mosques?
    • German study claims devout Islamic youth more violence-prone
    • Freedom of religion for non-Muslims in Islamic countries
    • May 20: Everybody Draw Mohammad Day
    • Sharia Law Bans Tight Pants In Indonesia
    • More terror: Taliban kill more than 70 in mosques in Pakistan
    • Mohammed the historical figure
    • What are the three defining messages/elements of your religion?
    • Swedish cartoon artist attacked during free speech lecture
    • "Being offended" as a means for forcing a belief system upon others
    • Public praying
    • 500 Christians murdered by Muslims in Nigeria
    • Geert Wilders: showing my film was victory for freedom of speech
    Well, smart guy? Do you notice a common theme among them? 200 points if you do. Oh, and one of these is not like the others... can you find it?!

    And no, in case you're wondering, I didn't exclude any thread.
     
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    Yes, I concern myself with Islam a lot in this forum and I am rather critical of certain things - such as death threats, murders, intolerance, mistreatment of women. This is undisputed. So?

    You just admitted again that you did not read my posts, just the thread titles.

    You also made a lot of big assumptions and typed big words about my intentions. Then you admitted several times to not having read my posts.

    Your credibility just hit rock-bottom. Even those who dislike me and love to argue with me are embarrassed for you.
     
  15. Depressio

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    See, this is the issue with discussing or debating absolutely anything with you: you choose not to listen (or read). You, too, assume things yet don't realize it.

    I've read plenty of your posts to get the gist of what you're about regarding Islam, but most of that reading was a while ago. Once I determined what the message you're continually trying to convery is, I've been mostly brushing off what you say. This is what I mean by "I hardly read your posts these days". Apologies if it wasn't clear that "these days" means recent -- I thought everyone knew that euphemism?

    Also, I noted that I haven't been on the forum as long as you (rather obvious given the join dates), so of course I haven't read all the posts where you detail your nationality and location.

    Also, "I don't have to read your posts" doesn't mean "I don't read your posts." I know, I know, those extra words can be a hassle to parse, but you should try to read all the words!

    So, despite the above, you assume that I read none of your posts anyway just to try and fluff up your own credibility somehow.

    What you cannot refute is your continued pattern of posting things that would attempt to put Islam in a negative light. Things that might make an ignorant observed say "geez, look at all that killing in the name of Islam!" Only a few of those threads are half-*ssed attempts at discussing the merits of Islam, only to be followed by yet another attempt at discrediting the religion with some random act of violence. You are not genuine in your attempts at understanding the religion whatsoever. Your repeated pattern detailed in the threads you create alone makes this glaringly obvious.
     
  16. RocketRaccoon

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    You're one piece of work TSchmal. :rolleyes:
     
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    It's like watching a clown stabbing himself to death.
     
  18. Depressio

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    It's like watching a bunch of r****ds trying to hump a doorknob.
     
  19. KingCheetah

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    SJC you are entering the Obasso zone with all the threads on Islam.
     
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    Surely Islam is responsible--they hate clowns.



    It's in the Koran.
     

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