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Is is hypocritical for Palin/Beck to hold a rally at Lincoln Park on Aug 28th?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Aug 22, 2010.

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Is Palin / Beck hypocrites over the mosque?

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  1. GladiatoRowdy

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    I think he means those who participated in the process BEFORE Faux "News" manufactured this controversy.
     
  2. rhadamanthus

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    I think this rally is just plain disgusting. 98% of what Beck and Palin spew to the idiots that follow them is antithetical to the principles espoused by MLK, and codified in the Civil Rights Act and similar legislation.

    They have the right to hold this rally, and the right to speak what they will, but let's not gloss over the vicious ideology inherent therein.

    Restoring Honor? No.

    Restoring Bigotry. Restoring Hatred. Restoring Ignorance. Restoring Fear.
     
  3. insane man

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    who the hell calls it lincoln park?
     
  4. mc mark

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    Oh come on! nobody? basso? thumbs? giddyup?

    Nobody got the email?
     
  5. insane man

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    i was surprised they didn't have dupont on the list. also, so if you were coming in from the airport, you'd have to take the blue line, because they didn't approve the yellow. god forbid you make those two stops from national to chinatown on the yellow.
     
  6. basso

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    humph. odd then that MLK's niece is a featured speaker.

    [rquoter]Glenn Beck 8/28 rally: It's a matter of honor
    Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., – explains why she's speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday.

    By Alveda King / August 26, 2010

    New York
    In front of the Lincoln Memorial in June, a group of students caught up in a moment of spontaneous patriotism broke into song. But the US Park Police were quick to shush the members of the Young America’s Foundation, saying singing is not allowed at the memorial. The song that was stifled? “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

    So much for freedom of speech.

    At the Martin Luther King, Jr., Center for Nonviolent Social Change in Atlanta this July, an official at the memorial to one of the greatest civil rights leaders in the world – my Uncle Martin – removed a bullhorn from the hands of Father Frank Pavone, an internationally recognized leader of the pro-life movement. We were a group more than 100 strong, in Atlanta to declare that abortion is the greatest violation of civil rights in our day. We brought a wreath to lay at Uncle Martin’s grave while we prayed, but due to a King Center official’s barricade at the gravesite, we weren’t allowed. The National Park Service said that would constitute a demonstration.

    So much for freedom of assembly.

    Symbols of liberty

    Americans are hungry to reclaim the symbols of our liberty, hard won by an unlikely group of outnumbered, outgunned, underfunded patriots determined not to live in servitude to the British Empire. If we want to sing the national anthem at a memorial to the man who led this fledgling nation out of slavery, and made my people free, we should be able to send our voices soaring to the heavens.

    Glenn Beck’s “Rally to Restore Honor” this Saturday will give us that chance, and that’s why I feel it’s important for me to be there.

    Before the words were out of Mr. Beck’s mouth announcing the Aug. 28 rally, The New York Times noted that it would be at the same place and 47 years to the day since my Uncle Martin gave his “I Have a Dream Speech.” When asked why he chose that date in particular, Beck said he had not realized its significance, but in thinking about it, he saw it is an auspicious day to rally for the honor of the American people. He has said, and he’s right, that Martin Luther King didn’t speak only for African-Americans. He spoke for all Americans, and his words still ring true.

    Other groups are planning rallies and demonstrations in Washington that day, and freedom of speech gives them the right to do so – and to criticize me for not jumping on their bandwagon. But Uncle Martin’s legacy is big enough to go around.

    A rally about character, not politics

    Though critics see it as partisan, Beck’s rally is not a political event, per se. Instead, it is designed to be a refreshing exercise of freedom of speech.

    The rally will be a celebration of who we are as a nation and a chance to stop for a moment, reflect, reorganize, and re-energize. It’s a chance to think about character; both our character as a nation and our character as individuals.

    Delineating ourselves as red state or blue, liberal or conservative, minority or majority, we have not quite reached the day when men and women are “judged not by the color of their skin but on the content of their character.” We are still marching toward that day. As Uncle Martin said, “we cannot turn back.”

    The rally will also give America another chance to honor and thank the men and women in our armed forces for the dangers they face every day in our stead. Unless you have a loved one in Iraq or Afghanistan, it’s too easy to forget that tens of thousands of Americans are far from the comforts of home, are directly in harm’s way, facing an enemy who hates us precisely because we are free. And coming just days before the ninth anniversary of 9/11, the day that roused us from our complacency, we could use another wakeup call, one of our own devising.

    When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race.

    On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.

    Dr. Alveda King is the director of African-American outreach for Priests for Life, and the founder of King for America.[/i][/rquoter]

    so much hate from the left. where have you gone, my old friend Martin? if we poison our children with hatred, then a hard life is all that they'll know.

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  7. DonnyMost

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    The only thing more asinine than what Beck will say at this rally is this argument that has preceded it.
     
  8. basso

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    who's that standin' up?

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  9. basso

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    that's a lot of people.

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  10. basso

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    one of the half million racists on the mall today.

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    another:

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    and this racist, islamaphobe, hetero-normative teabagger:

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    i feel so ashamed of my country...
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Fixed that for ya.
     
  12. Oski2005

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    one of my favorite stories from today:

     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    I fully support their right to have their rally and for all people in America to express their views publicly where and when they want.
     
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  14. basso

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    viagra for our political system:

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  15. basso

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    as do I.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    of course - but they are still hypocrites pissing on MLK.
     
  17. ChrisBosh

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    Who are they talking about when they say they're "taking their country back?" Who took "their country" exactly? How did a landslide victory become an insurrection?
     
  19. thadeus

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    The minority is the new majority.
     
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    That's more than the snake oil salesman Beck could ever pull. It's like the Simpsons episode with Grandpa's love tonic or the Michael Jackson/Paul McCartney "Say Say Say" video. He rolls in, promises to soothe your wounds and restore America to the comfortable, white, "Christian nation" you once thought it was. It's only later do you realize, when his voice is eventually lost in the static, that yours is too because you've marginalized yourself by so easily buying in to a fringe ideology that never really had your interests at heart and that rather than working with your political rivals, your "socialist" insults, embrace of politicians who revel in rolling in their own ignorance while quitting on the people they were elected to serve, and irrationality have driven you into obscurity. Yes, I mad.

    But then again, the President of the United States is black and had a Muslim father. Highly suspicious.
     

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