The difference between a car and the universe is that the universe is all-encompassing. Not a good analogy.
The elitist attitude on this board is like a plague. Far too many D&D posters are convinced that they are somehow superior in intelligence to most Americans just because they can type up a few line of text on an web debate forum. For example, the evolutionists are in full attack mode picking on anyone who doesn't believe in their theory. Additionally, you have the poli-sci gurus here attacking a former President and a VP nominee for their lack of sophistication. Honestly, how many of you self-proclaim "genius" have the brains to get yourself elected as POTUS or even run as VP on a party ticket? Thats right NONE of you have been elected to a higher office than the pathetic seat your ass is currently wasting while typing up "standards of stupidity in America" on a basketball forum. So STFU because you aren't smarter than anyone else on this board or any other American for that matter. Intelligence is not measured in your knowledge of debate tactics but rather in your ability to respect an opposing viewpoint and carry a civilized discourse. /rant
Not according to any definition that I've ever seen. [rquoter] Intelligence is an umbrella term describing a property of the mind including related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, understanding, communication, reasoning, learning, learning from past experiences, planning, and problem solving. [/rquoter] Nope. Nothing there about playing nicely with others.
Wow how appropriate I was just about to post that America has to be the only country where intelligence is considered elitist and poof here you are to prove it.
When my step-dad tried to tell me Sarah Palin was right about the death panels I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. America The Ignorant indeed.
This thread can easily expand to mean ANYTHING you hate that Americans do that you don't like (attention: Ronny). I dont like how schools are OVERLY about fashions and looks and "who's who" and superficiality. School uniforms K thru 12 if I had my way, individuality and liberty be damned. No more breeding grounds for ignorance when we remove the distracting popularity contest elements About simple minded people -in my humble non-expert opinion- I think people just are more adept to view things as whole finish products rather than working entirely out of PURE framework. Intellectuals want everyone to have "humility" to see themselves a process instead of a finished product human being. Cuz developed humans are corrupt and evil and stupid and all that kinda stuff.. When most people do any mundane action just as going to the store, they don't concentrate their thoughts solely on their own body parts in motion, their ligaments and muscles stretching, thinking of the neuro transmitters of their brains processing information, thinking of the colors and light reflecting off surfaces and what causes that. When their card gets scanned through, no one thinks "Magnets, how do they work?" while its happening. No one sees things as random anatomical parts synthesized together. Even the most intelligent scientists don't view the world molecular-ly and systematic AT ALL TIMES. Its a tough task to transition people into that mode. Maybe that something to do with the topic just ranting...
I'm not a physics buff but I thought the run revolves around the earth is not exactly incorrect. we perceive it as the reverse only because it's a better mathematical model and it's much easier to do calculations. Compare that to the earth is flat, now that's completely wrong.
It is UNFATHOMABLE that people do not believe in the FACT of Darwin's Theory of Evolution. It is as ridiculous as disagreeing with Newton's Law of Gravity... Disgusting...
You are severely uneducated. Start by looking up the definition of a "Theory"... Darwin, The Theory of Evolution, is fact. Newton's Theory of Gravity, is FACT... It is unfathomable to me that so many have been educated into thinking that Evolution is some kind of "belief system".
If you believe that a creator is a Christian creator... Would you call someone dumb for believing in Zues? Not dumb, delusional...
Unfortunately it isn't the only country, just listen to Wilders in the Netherlands. No I do not think I'm superior to most American (or people in general) just because I can type up a few line of text on an web debate forum. I know I'm superior because I'm better in sport and smarter than most people :grin:. To respond to the thread subject, there are many things that are stupid Americans believe. Unfortunately it is not just Americans; Most people are just not that smart, and many believe stupid things. You can make such a list for any country in the world. Even the acting like your ignorance makes you better than other people also happens in other countries. Believing in a god is not stupid, I personally do not believe in it. But i have no answer for what happened at the very beginning of the universe, so thinking that a god was there is not stupid in my opinion. I just do not believe it.
Actually, both are theory and not fact. They fit in with how we view the world nowadays. It is like a puzzle, the pieces fit well together within the current understandings of the universe, but we cannot be sure we are making the correct puzzle. As long as we find proof that does not contradict the mentioned theories it fits well into our perception of the world, and the theory remains intact. However if we find one piece of evidence that disproves the theory we have to review the theories (and with that everything we have discovered in biological science). However we cannot be sure that they are 100% correct. I think both are correct; however I do not rule out that there can be some errors in it.
I'm sorry but these standpoints are a reason why I defend Religious people (or at least people who believe in a god). Even though I personally do not believe in a god. I do not believe in a god. however we do not know and cannot understand how life came to exist. If we do not believe in a god we cannot know how the universe came to exist. If we do believe in a god we cannot know how that god came to exist. Either way we do not know what happened at the very beginning. our human brain cannot understand those concepts, we will never understand it. It is not delusional to believe a god created the world. We do not know, so believing it does not make you stupid or delusional. I do have a problem with people who claim that their religion is better than another. It doesn't matter whether you believe in the Christian/Muslim/ Jewish god (which in fact are al based on the same god, and are just different ways of worshipping him) or you believe in Hinduism or you believe in Zeus, Quetzalcoatl, or mother earth they are all based on the fact that a higher powers are present. And we do not know it they are present or not. One thing that is not good is that Evolution is also beginning to be sort of a religion, people do not accept criticism on it (cough cough Richard Dawkins). I believe a smart person always questions the theories that exist in their time, it is easy to just accept what other people tell you (whether that is the pope, dalai Lama or Richard Dawksin), people have to think for themselves. and if by thinking for yourself you come to the conclusion that there must be a god there is nothing wrong with that.
The sun does not revolve around the Earth. That is not partly correct. It is entirely wrong. However, the Sun does move because of the Earth. The two bodies each revolve around their combined center of mass. Because the Sun is millions of times more massive than the Earth, this point happens to be inside the sun. So the Earth revolves around a point inside the Sun (but not at the exact center), and the Sun wobbles ever so slightly because of the presence of the Earth. This wobble is actually one of the effects that allows astronomers to detect planets around other stars.
You are 100% correct here, great post. And both theories are certainly better (from a scientific standpoint) than any "theory" that attempts to explain things without making any experimentally verifiable/falsifiable predictions (e.g., Creationism).
