[Yahoo!] Carmelo privately expressing more enthusiasm to join Rockets than Knicks

half of the team? you mean more like: "the assets morey has stockpiled up since he took over" -- in order to execute a trade like this?

If this trade goes down, no matter who we have to give away. It'll be the best trade Morey has ever done.

 

Absolutely... unless it's not.

 

He's back now. I can actually say that with confidence.

I think early on, Yao will probably be limited to 25 minutes a game and averaging at least 16 and 7 and by playoff time, he will dominate with his usual 20 and 10 stat line.

P.S. I'm a optimist.

 

Those three players didn't sign for less they signed for the max.

 

Martin doesn't dribble all over the place but he still needs the ball to be effective. DD has it right, and you seem to have Martin pegged as some kind of Peja/Reggie Miller clone. He's not. Martin is like the more efficient version of AI, what you need to do is give him the ball, get out of the way, and camp out at the 3 pt line in case he sends an outlet pass to you.

Martin doesn't move off the ball, if he can score off the ball then he would have blown up while playing with Tyreke Evans, who's a pretty good slasher and can make outlet passes to off-the-ball players.

I could not disagree more with almost everything you said, including how Lowry would work better with Melo and of course Yao. Lowry's stats dropped when he was asked to play with Yao Ming, that's because he doesn't have a 3 pt shot to complement Yao's game. Melo doesn't have a 3 pt shot either. What'll happen is under your scenario, only 1 guy on the court can hit a 3 pt shot, 2 guys have broken shooting mechanics and have to slash, and you have a 7-6 guy clogging the paint. LOL best offense in the league? More like most un-synergistic offense ever. The team will become less than the sum of its parts, with everyone getting in everyone's way.

The right play is to ship Kevin Martin out and free up 10M in salaries as well as elevate Lee to the starting lineup. Lee is the legit off-the-ball player here, not Kevin Martin. What'll happen is Brooks and Lee will provide 3 pt shooting, Melo and Brooks can take turns creating with the ball, and the Scola and Yao will benefit from all the spacing. Best of all, if we include Martin in the trade we'll get to keep the NY picks.

 

I understand some of your points but i don't agree with martin but being off the ball type player. He's essentially a rip hamilton with bad defense.

 

err, not being off the ball player i mean.

 

I don't understand either one of you.

 

....but Evans doesn't pass? Also Evans is now a SG any ways, that's why that didn't work out. Because they had two SGs starting.

Martin has always been this off the ball player, and it seems to me Adelman used him the very same way last year. Even looking at highlights, he scores a lot off of screens and freeing himself up to receive a pass later.

Not to say he can't score one-on-one...because he can.

Feigan

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2010/02/with_my_favorite_martin_on_boa.html

Doesn't prove that he's an off the ball player, but idk...from what I've seen with my own eyes he seems more effective off of it than on it, especially with that odd shot he has.

Of course he's not Reggie Miller or anything though..

 

Brooks vs Martin to get Carmelo?

I'll take Brooks/Lee/Carmelo over Lowry/Martin/Carmelo due to Brooks and Lee being a better shooting due than Lowry and Martin

You've got to stretch the floor as much as you can if you have Melo. Give Melo and Yao as much room as possible to operate in the mid/low post.

 

Fixed

 

I guess u missed the sarcasm.

 

Well it looks like the Nuggets still are without a GM.

The frontrunner for the job, Dave Griffin, turned down the job.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5495214

 

If getting under the tax next year (and I think you mean the cap, though neither is determined at this time due to the CBA) is what they want, they can do it without doing this deal. Melo along is woth TWill and DFav and picks. They can easily get expirings + more picks from multiple teams for Nene. If I were Morey, I easily would give both NYK picks + expiring + Hill or Patters for him. not sure Nets can match this over what they give for Melo alone.

 

Regardless of whether we get Anthony or not, the fact the we even are in
the conversation is thanks to Morey's moves since he has been GM. All the
valuable assets, including the nice trade exception from the Ariza deal, have
led to this. It's a bright bright future any way it goes down.

 

Well said, well said.

 

Aside from them being in Brooklyn for not another 2 years, from a basketball perspective, why would Melo want to join the Nyets?

They were a 12 win team last season and didn't improve their roster at all and actually lost the best talent aside from Lopez in Lee. There biggest free agent signings were Travis Outlaw and Jordan freakin Farmar! How are the Nyets gonna sell that to Melo? At least Morey can show Melo the videos of Yao being back in full form.

Carrying the burden of leading that 12 win team to the playoffs has to make Melo cringe, especially since he is trying to get out of a situation just like that.

Also they will have to give up on their future in Favors? And who the heck is Terrence Williams? C-Bud and even Gallinari are better prospects than him.

Personally I think our picks + Hill + Patterson > Favors.

The only reason why Melo would consider the Nyets are because in 2 years, they will move to Brooklyn. Other than that, I just don't get why he would want to go there.

 

Reports that Phoenix asst GM turns down Denver position. Don't have a link I'm on my phone. Does he turn it down because Denver ownership is convinced they need to trade Melo? Does this slow down or possibly speed up the process. I almost think if Denver is going to trade Melo before the season, they may go ahead an do it without a GM in place.

 

I already posted it. See post number 513.

I personally think they should just move Melo with or without a GM.

From my understanding, Bearup and Kroenke make all the decisions, the GM is just given the title, that is all. The owner is the one calling all the shots, similar to Cuban.

 

CH, I'm not saying I agree, but there is no one who has the upside of favors. When scouts say he could be d.howard, thats more than what the rockets can offer the deal involving nene with carmello knocks 7m off payroll in 1 swoop. They want to be under the lt this season if the deal carmello because they will be in rebuild mode. It will be next to impossible to deal martin and his 17m for 25% this season. They will try to unload smith,the newly acquired murphy,and maybe even boone. Billups will be the stabilizer until they get everything going the right way. I'm not saying the rockets dont have a good package, I'm just saying the biggest potential in the deal is favors.