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Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Coogie3, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. jim1961

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    Look, does one have to go through NBA history to prove in the past that adding a player like Melo doesnt always make the team better? Is their anyone here that will tell me this always works out? That it even works out 50% of the time? Some of you are acting like a man in the desert who sees a water fountain over the next dune.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Of course it doesn't always work out. No one is arguing that. We are saying acquiring him is better than standing pat.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    I don't believe that he is open to playing in Houston until he or someone connected to him actually says it.

    Right now, we are going by "Sources said" which could mean Denver for crying out loud.

    Remember the Bosh's list of teams...that turned out to be 100% bogus too.

    His numbers have not shown that he is a good rebounder, but I will grant you he would be the best rebouding SF we have right now.

    I understand his meaning, I wonder if he thinks that now after Yao and TMac's max deals.....

    Generally I agree with him, but not all max contracts are the same.

    Look it is pointless, we are not going to agree, I think going after him would be silly at this point....maybe I will change my mind once the season gets going etc, but right now, there are just too many unknowns to make any deal that is not just over the top in our favor.

    DD
     
  4. valorita

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    There have been some question about whether Melo's attitude fits with the current Rox culture. Sometimes it takes a fresh beginning for people to shed their previous reputation and lifestyle. Add to the fact that he got married recently and the Rox's team-first huffort mentality and I believe that Melo will adapt to the higher standards set by the fans and the organization. Besides, it's not like he comes out of shape and refuses to put in the time to get better so the dedication is there. He just needs a fresh start and better people around him to continue his growth process.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    DaDa - Did you ever consider Peja a superstar in this league?

    IMO . . since people have convinced me . . . .
    If Melo is as good as Peja on this team . . i will be good with that

    Rocket River
     
  6. DaDakota

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    This is true, if enough of the right type of people are kept, it could help him learn to play the "right" way.

    No, never, he was a star player, but not a superstar...imo.

    DD
     
  7. Rocket River

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    Honestly. . . I think the biggest asset Artest Brought was a TOUGHNESS and ATTITUDE to this team.
    I hope that this team keeps that and brings it to melo.
    I would not want a Loafing attitude here.

    Rocket River
     
  8. DaDakota

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    I don't think Artest brought that, I think that comes from Scola and Battier, and Yao.

    Their never say die and never back down attitude.....

    Not Ron's zaniness....

    And I agree about Melo...he would need to play hard on this team night in and night out....on both ends of the floor.

    DD
     
  9. DLRoxFan92

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    I think that, put in the right system, Anthony can play defense at a consistent level.

    Man, DD, that guy that's been bothering you must have more ****ty posts than the user "WNBA"!
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Man, if you are not going to play defense for George Karl, then what makes anyone think he will play it for Rick Adelman?

    Karl has amazing defensive schemes, just look at his days in Seattle with Payton those guys were defensive beasts.


    It would be nice if people would just talk basketball.

    DD
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    The rebounding #s show Carmelo is very good for his position.

    Morey said what he said about max contracts recently, after Tmac and Yao had their problems.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    OF COURSE . . because it was there all those years before

    Rocket River
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Artest took it to the Lakers too. I don't think they win a ring without him.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    OH! you mean the zone defense he played?
    Using an illegal tactic when no one else can . . is not Amazing!

    Rocket River
     
  15. jim1961

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    This point to me is an extremely important one. Perhaps key to the whole thing. IF he was confirmed as saying himself how much he looked forward to playing in Houston, that might be enough to convince me to take a chance with him. Until that happens, im skeptical about his motives and true feelings.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Shawn Marion was a good rebounder from the SF position, but yeah Melo is top 5 in rebounding at the SF position.

    However if you adjust it for per 48 minutes he drops to 26th at the SF position which is fairly average.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/p...ounds/qualified/false/position/small-forwards

    Yep, well gonna disagree with Morey there....to some extent.

    DD
     
  17. dreamshake09

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    That's pretty naive to think this Rocket team is full of roleplayers.
     
  18. RedRedemption

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    On the exception of Yao Ming... and just maybe Aaron Brooks.
    The rest are role players. Kevin Martin just doesn't have the leadership mentality imo, Scola has never been a main guy ever. He's a nice addition, and reliable starter, but he's not a leader per se.

    This team is one piece away from an NBA finals appearance and possibly a championship.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    There's too many guys in there that barely played any minutes. And actually, Melo had a dropoff in rebounding this year. 2 previous years, he was much higher in rebounding rate, so he has the ability to be even better than he was this past year.
     
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    Be real about this. You can't look at adj48 to determine how good a rebounder he is at SF. Look at the list. Of the guys that average 30 mpg, he is in the top 5 in rebound rate. He is a very good rebounder at the 3. Especially when you consider he is playing with Nene, Martin, and Chris Andersen for practially all his minutes. Those 3 guys hog the boards. And Melo still gets his.
     

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