1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

R. Fernandez wants to go home.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rocketboi, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    Why be a decent NBA bench player when you can be a starter in Europe? I think a lot of these guys know they don't have what it takes, and would prefer being a big fish in a small pond rather than a small fish in a big pond.

    Is Rubio going to be that type of player?
     
  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,519
    Likes Received:
    19,661
    Rudy was never given a chance in Portland. Pritchard just drafted players left and right and ended up with an overstacked roster. Rudy starts on at least 5 teams in the NBA right away. He's that good.

    Rubio? He's the best player in ALL OF EUROPE. He'll make noise here no doubt about it.

    Have you ever been across the Atlantic ocean in your life because I have a feeling your global perception is limited?
     
  3. University Blue

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 1999
    Messages:
    1,657
    Likes Received:
    12
    I agree.

    Sincerely,

    Vernon Maxwell
     
  4. sew

    sew Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    3,406
    Likes Received:
    228
    A lil off-topic but.... how is V.Span doing over in Europe?? Back to T-mac status?
     
  5. RV6

    RV6 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    this is precisely why you dont trade for him....it's been the same story for a while now and i'm glad houston didnt trade for him...otherwise the same thing would have happened here because he'll be a back up in a limited role.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,519
    Likes Received:
    19,661
    pretty much...

    2x Acropolis Tournament MVP 2007, 2009

    Euroleague Final Four MVP 2009

    Greek League MVP 2009

    EuroBasket 2009 All-Tournament Team

    Balkan Athlete of the Year 2009
     
  7. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    16,255
    Likes Received:
    2,037
    Or like a fish OUT of water.

    I think personality fit and culture differences play a big part, along with actual skills. We older people forget how young these guys actually are. Youth can either be adventurous and exploratory, or PURELY a product of their home environment.

    V-Span sulked not just cuz he didnt fit in on the court, but also cuz he didnt fit into US culture. Probably didnt fit in with the NBA guys. Didnt care for the music, the tv shows, style of talk, the women, etc...some people adapt to the culture shock, some dont. Some guys keep translators for 10 years and dont care, like Hideki Matsui. Some guys like Darko Milicic, still just seems like he got off the Serbian boat.
     
  8. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    Yes, I have traveled abroad, but why the snide comment? Especially, since it makes no sense within the context of this discussion.

    And Rudy isn't asking to be traded to another team, he's asking to be released, so he can run back home.
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,519
    Likes Received:
    19,661
    My bad but your comment on Rubio seemed to be critical of him. Like you haven't seen how talented he is and are putting him in the same circle of talent as Rudy (which he's not). Rubio is probably the best Basketball player in Spanish history.

    Rudy is just frustrated in the way the Blazers have treated him. I'm sure if we traded for him he would love to play here as a significant rotation player at SG. If Morey could guarantee him significant minutes it would happen but with Chase and JT I can't see it.
     
  10. vinsensual

    vinsensual Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2008
    Messages:
    8,460
    Likes Received:
    794
    I just keep up with the Blazer topics posted in the Dish but it looked like he was never that happy here. Back when we played them in the playoffs he was a crowd favorite, and he was also rookie or sophomore status, but 2 seasons since then his role has not grown (minus the 2010 playoffs). Understandable since he's behind Roy but it must be stressful wanting and deserving of more but being in a bad situation. They also had to give minutes to their 1st rounder Bayless, their returning starter Webster, and Batum who also showed promise and was a starter by the end of his rookie season.

    Then they trade away his closest friend (either because of language barrier or unfriendliness) on the team in Sergio and then there was that quote about him celebrating his birthday alone. That just sucks.
     
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,379
    Likes Received:
    177,380
    Rudy wants to go home again


    SpearsNBAYahoo
     
  12. v3.0

    v3.0 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2005
    Messages:
    16,203
    Likes Received:
    931
    small fish in big pond wants to go back to big fish in small pond
     
  13. Tom Bombadillo

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    29,091
    Likes Received:
    23,992
    A homeless man's version...
     
  14. Tfj4

    Tfj4 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2008
    Messages:
    805
    Likes Received:
    38
    DD's talent evaluation is top notch
     
  15. MrButtocks

    MrButtocks Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Messages:
    7,569
    Likes Received:
    5,818
    He could have proven himself as a starter last year. Outlaw was traded, Roy and Batum were on the shelf for an extended period. He can get hot from beyond the arc, but he hasn't shown any signs of improvement like some of his teammates.
     
  16. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    A little fish in a big pond is a big fish in a little pond.
     
  17. Honey Bear

    Honey Bear Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    5,102
    Likes Received:
    555
    He was vastly overrated by internet nerds. The majority of European players just don't have the stop start dynamics to be impact players in the NBA; their finesse play just doesn't translate against more physical opponents, tighter defenses and more athletic big men. He's just too discombobulated around his center of gravity for the NBA, so he struggles to square up for shots and play in rhythm with his teammates.

    As usual, I called it. Men may come, and men may go, but the Ronny will live on forever.
     
  18. MacYao223

    MacYao223 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2006
    Messages:
    893
    Likes Received:
    7
    Those of you saying Rudy is an NBA starter, I just don't buy it. He is a very solid spark of someones bench. A spot shooter who moves without the ball. He can't defend though consistently, he is not a guy who can really create his own shot, and he's too weak physically to guard NBA 2's consistently. I guess he's a starter on a REALLY bad team. And based on how much he talks to the media about going home, he seems like a mentally weak player.

    Never really bought the hype about this guy at all. His ceiling was always set to be an NBA role player.
     
  19. DeAleck

    DeAleck Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2003
    Messages:
    3,204
    Likes Received:
    224

    In the mean time, Tmac has gained Vspan status in the NBA.
     
  20. funkyfresh

    funkyfresh Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    45
    Likes Received:
    25
    Just heard on sports radio here in Portland from Jason Quick - (insider Blazers reporter) rattle off 4 deals for Rudy that didn't go down. One was a straight up Rudy for Courtney Lee swap that the Rockets balked at. They had 3 previous draft day deals and even a protected top 15 pick that Portland turned down. Rudy's agents have been waiting a month to sit down with new GM Cho with no luck. If a trade doesn't happen quick it sounds like he will not be coming back to the NBA.
     
    1 person likes this.

Share This Page