Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

I think ROCKET!! might not understand what the word "leverage" means.

Typically you use leverage to get the better end of a deal. Carmelo is a better use of our assets than Granger...

 

Then if true, whoever advised them to put false information out should be fired...

Why open a can of worms mentioning Houston....which actually has a lot more to offer than the Knicks.

If I'm Nuggets front office, I'm going back to Arsenio Hall days..."things that make you say, hmmmmmm"

 

Um, yea it does.

Open your mind and see the entire league. This puts pressure on Bird (if he is even slightly inclined to do so) to trade with Houston and getting our assets before Denver does. Again, if he is interested.

 

<BR>Hmm... let's examine some proposed trade offers...

Two starters plus a large expiring contract and a probably-low 2nd rounder.

Two starters plus a high 1st rounder.

Two starters plus a LOW 1st rounder.

Zero starters, six bench guys plus two 1st rounders.

I think you forgot to include a couple of key ingredients in your trade proposal:

Roofies - hypnosis - blackmail - coercion by torture - Jeffries - Hayes - Hill - Patterson - Budinger - Taylor - Lull rights - Knicks 2011, 2012 picks

That might get the job done.
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I could NOT disagree more. Granger is a FAR more efficient player than Anthony.

 

I doubt Indy is in a hurry to unload Granger, but you've got it backwards -- the Rockets "assets" are not coveted. They are merely a nice consolation for a team that has hit a dead end with their superstar player. No team WANTS to trade away a perennial all-star for a bunch of unproven "talent" and draft picks unless they have to.

 

LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hahaha. THANK YOU.

 

if so, he already knows not to come to Morey sideways...lol

 

Im Sure! LOL :grin:

 

It's not about cap relief (though it's nice), it's about matching salaries. Melo makes $17M, meaning Any interested team needs to send at least $14M worth to Denver. Denver probably would prefer a team send $14M for Anthony, because they instantly save millions...they're over the luxury tax. Why would they want to pay for extra dead weight if the trade immediately makes them a lottery team?

The Knicks simply have to send Curry over, because only he, Felton, and Amare make major money. Felton is a bad contract, and Amare isn't going to be on the table.

 

No way that is the consensus on CF.net.

But I am in the minority opinion, why don't we give Chase a shot. Don't waste money. The only possible scenario I read somewhere is that acquiring Melo would lure Paul to Houston. Now that's something.

 

Mannix on 610:

H: Rich and Rob here, how are you?

CM: Whats up guys?

H: Wanted to talk about the Carmelo report, many assuming he wants out.

CM: The indications early on is Carmelo would want to play for Knicks if he was a FA. A lot of factors are weighing into his decision. He wants to get paid. He'd have to sign now. he's expanded his list of teams to get traded to and sign extensions with. Houston is on that list along with NJ and many others but those are the ones I can confirm.

H: DOes this come down to which team has the most attractive package or Carmelo will tell Nuggets where he wants to go?

CM: Both. Nuggets wont be foolish. They want max value but you wont get $ for $ return. Houston has some interesting pieces to dangle like Brooks and Jeffries, along with draft picks(NY). They have assets. Carmelo sees Houston as a team that can win. No team will acquire him unless he signs extension. NUggets want top $ though, but Houston in good position.

H: Houston also has inexpensive young talent, maybe potential pieces.

CM: Of course, but they want an impact player. Nets could offer Harris, maybe Favors, Knicks have Gallinari. Houston would have to offer someone like Brooks but thats speculation on mypart. If you're Denver, Billups becomes less part of your future. Brooks could be a good fit with Karl offense.

H: Why does he want out?

CM: I dont think he sees a team that can win. Yeah, a good team but havent been able to get over the hump. Also sees his buddies out in Miami. A little bit of envy there. Looks at NY, sees Amare, maybe a CP3 or Tony Parker to form a super team of his own. Sees Houston as a team that can compete with your LAL and OKC. Denver may have maxed out possibilities. He's ready to move on.

H: Reputation in the league?

CM: Rep hasnt changed too much but his talent has grown. A physical monster. The most physical SF in the league. I think he has established himself. Rep hasnt changed but as a player, he has gotten better.

H: Yeah, no brainer. You want Carmelo on your team. Your take on Rockets trading Ariza, getting Lee.

CM: I think talent wise, it didnt make sense. You probably want Ariza over Lee but salary wise, yeah it makes sense. They want to be aggressive on the FA and trade market. Have to watch your finances a bit. More valuable to clear a little money off the books. Can take a flyer on Lee, see how it works out. No problem with it per se. Financially motivated deal. Gotta see what they do afterwards to get a "final" reaction on the deal.

 

Rockets do not have any competitive offer to get Melo.

 

I think you forgot that I clearly stated that would be my opening offer, and that Martin-Battier-Hill-Knicks picks would be my higher offer.

Selective reading is rarely your friend.

 

Again, I could not disagree with you more. The Rockets assest are coveted by many teams for many various reasons. All has been discussed ad nausium. You think Morey is collecting assests for the sport of it?

 

We're going to offer them Battier Jeffries and a 1st round pick + Hill....take it or leave it.

 

Thats funny cause he's actually underrated .. He's as good as Wade or Bron
But isnt as popular because he's game is old school he's not the most athletic player or entertaining to SOME ..

 

Not according to this - efficiency


Carmelo was pretty inefficient the first several years of his career, but over the last two seasons he has really taken a big step forward.

Granger is a couple of % points higher in TS% and is a better 3 point shooter, but it's not like we will have Melo camped out on the three point line. He'll be utilized to his strengths.

Don't get me wrong, Granger is a nice player and I'd love to have him here, but he's been putting up numbers on a bad team. At the moment Carmelo seems to be more available too.