Wells Fargo - now has monthly fees

CountyClerk · Aug 8, 2010

I have Bank of America and they also the monthly maintenance fee but you can get the campus edge account if you are a student. it's free for 5 years.

Major · Aug 8, 2010

thadeus said:

I just checked my account and found out I was charged a $15 "account maintenance fee" for the first time. Assholes.
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Are you sure the fee is new? They've had fees on various accounts for a long time - if you google it, you can see people complaining for years. Here's the list:

https://www.wellsfargo.com/checking/

It appears you're on the Advantage package based on the $15 fee. Is it possible that you just naturally had one of the things that caused the fee to be waived until this month? I ran into that with BoA a few years back not realizing that I had dipped below some average daily balances that caused fees to accrue.

Phillyrocket · Aug 8, 2010

smoove shoez said:

How does the credit union work can you still do on line banking,pay bills etc.
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Credit Unions are owned by their members, there are not as profit driven as the big banks who are publicly traded and have shareholders to appease. Fees are lower or nonexistent.

Yes you can still do online billpay, banking, even online deposits.

TECH · Aug 8, 2010

Xerobull said:

My old Credit union would charge for bill pay, too. I've never understood that. Why charge me for saving you time and money by not processing the checks I write? Stupid.
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They look at it as a convenience for YOU, one that you likely would pay for rather than go through the hassle doing your own paper work and mailing/stamps.... The same thing happens with vehicle registration; send it via mail and it costs you more than to go to the office.

TECH · Aug 8, 2010

Mr. Brightside said:

Why shouldn't they charge a fee? Do you expect banks to hold your money for free and provide all the conveniences of modern day banking for nothing? Back in the day it was common place for every bank to charge a monthly fee. You seem to have a sense of entitlement that should not be there.
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Their services are not free to you, they use your money to make money of their own.
I think lack of fees can be contributed to simple competition between banks, but look at what's going on now-more banks are merging.

KaiSeR SoZe · Aug 8, 2010

http://www.cleveland.com/business/i...ling_banks_likely_to_raise_other_charges.html

New rules taking effect this month will cut into the money banks now make when customers overdraw their accounts with debit card transactions. But banks are expected to raise other fees to make up some of the shortfall.

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Bank customers soon will see higher fees, more of them and no more free checking -- all the result of banking reform that will cost banks billions of dollars.

Banks have long offset the cost of free checking by charging fees for everything from account overdrafts to ATM transactions. They collected $18 billion nationwide last year when customers overdrew their accounts with debit cards or ATMs.

Revenue from fees on checking and savings accounts soared 48 percent from 2000 to 2007, the U.S. Government Accountability Office says.
As of next week, that money stream could turn to a dribble. And in a separate change coming soon, banks won't be allowed charge merchants as much for processing debit card transactions.

Many banks are likely to respond by:

• Increasing fees for services such as getting a cashier's check or money order.
• Adding fees for things that are now free, such as banking at a branch or getting a statement by mail.
• Creating electronic checking accounts, with no checks or paper to process.
• Dropping no-strings free checking accounts.

"Some say this is the death of free checking," said banking analyst Terry McEvoy of Oppenheimer & Co. in Maine. "It's too early to say for sure, but clearly, banks can't continue to give away the product for free."
Why? Because starting Aug. 15, banks won't be able to charge a fee for debit card or ATM overdrafts unless the customer has agreed in advance to pay it. If the customer hasn't agreed, those transactions could be rejected if there is not enough money in the account.

In the 1990s, debit transactions were simply rejected in such cases. But banks have pushed debit cards hard since then and charged fees for overusing them.

Overdraft revenue nationwide nearly doubled from 2000 to 2009, topping $37 billion, according to Moebs Services, an industry analyst that bank regulators rely on.

At most banks today, a small mistake with a handful of routine debit card purchases can cost you more than $200 in overdraft fees. The frequency of problems like this led to the new rules protecting consumers.
Many checking customers -- half, according to some banks -- are telling their banks they want to continue paying fees if they overdraw their accounts with ATM or debit card purchases.

Banks have no choice but to raise other fees or find new ways to make money from checking account customers, said Peter Garuccio, a vice president at the American Bankers Association in Washington, D.C.
"It's the proverbial balloon. You squeeze on one end and it comes out somewhere else," Garuccio said.

The typical checking account costs a bank $250 to $300 a year to maintain, according to the bankers association, citing a study by the financial research firm Celent LLC. If the account isn't generating at least that much in revenue, it's a loser.

Overdrawn ATM and debit card transactions made up half of the $37 billion consumers paid last year in overdraft fees. The other half came from bounced checks and recurring electronic payments, which the new law doesn't affect.

PNC, the bank with the greatest presence in the Cleveland market, said it expects to lose nearly $300 million a year in overdraft revenue. No. 2 KeyBank expects to lose $40 million a year.

The crackdown on fees couldn't come at a worse time for banks. Many banks have just returned to profitability after two devastating years during which they suffered big losses on existing loans and generated few new interest-producing loans as people borrowed less. They now rely on non-interest income like fees for 27 percent of their revenue, the GAO says.

Bob Meara, a senior analyst for Celent in Atlanta, predicts fee increases, fees for things we're used to getting at no cost and a wave of checking accounts that don't allow paper checks.

"Banks are going to explore a variety of those options," Meara said. "I think higher fees are inevitable."

Some banks may charge to send you a statement. Some may charge to do a transaction with a teller. Some may charge monthly maintenance fees for everyone unless they have multiple, revenue-producing accounts.

A handful of banks have already started moving away from free checking. Fifth Third Bank a year ago stopped offering no-strings free checking. The cheapest account for people who don't maintain certain minimum balances or make a certain number of electronic transactions a month costs $7.50.
KeyBank is launching a new checking account this month that, for a $10 monthly fee, offers two free overdrafts a month and other perks.

On the other hand, FirstMerit Corp. of Akron is one bank that's adamant about keeping free checking, said spokesman Robert Townsend. The free account comes with no strings except $1 to open it.

But consumer advocates see the likely end of widespread free checking, and its replacement with monthly maintenance fees, as a good thing.

"At least you know what [fees] are up front. . . . There aren't surprises," said Jean Ann Fox, director of financial services for the Consumer Federation of America. "When the dust with this settles, instead of claiming to have free checking, many banks will have basic checking accounts that come with explicit pricing."

Fox noted that free checking has come at the expense of a few people. An FDIC study estimates that just 13 percent of checking customers -- primarily the poor and the financially disorganized -- pay 93 percent of all overdraft fees.

Cleveland's Third Federal Savings and Loan is proud that it has never sought out the customer who just wants a convenient checking account, said spokeswoman Jennifer Rosa. The bank has one type of checking account: If you have a mortgage or deposits totaling $1,500 or more, it's free. If not, it's $5 a month.

Asked what Third Federal thinks of the return of monthly checking account fees at other banks, Rosa said, "There's a reason they call them the good old days."
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Southern Select · Aug 8, 2010

Everything should be free. I love Obama.

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