Don't just mention him, give a shout out to your party chair Michael Steele - who I am told is black.
no, no, no sam, it isn't those conservatives who are the last remaining members of the Regional Southern Party who support amendments to to ban gay marriage, its all those black folks out there marching against gays. i mean, i've never seen gay people in black neighborhoods in beauty salons and what not because they are all so afriad of the anti gay mob mentality in the black community. for real, marion barry said so
Trust me, black people do not care enough about this. people like basso try to scapegoat black people as the awful suppressors of gay rights as some sort of ungreatful bit of irony from the black community. blacks may not be on a everyday life level not as acceptable of the gay lifestyle, but they aren't going to waste their time fighting it.
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basso, you have no leg to stand on regarding this issue. You claimed that one President who supported amending our nation's constitution to forever ban gay marriage, was no different than a President who was opposed to amending our constitution to forever ban gay marriage. You can give all the lip service you want, but it rings hollow.
more lip service. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qTFNlYp3n20&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qTFNlYp3n20&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
more conservatives paying lp service to the issue, i'm sure just to piss FB off. [rquoter]Ted Olson goes to court on behalf of gay marriage By: BYRON YORK Chief Political Correspondent 05/26/09 9:59 PM EDT Former Bush administration solicitor general Theodore Olson is part of a team that has filed suit in federal court in California seeking to overturn Proposition 8 and re-establish the right of same-sex couples to marry. The suit argues that the state's marriage ban, upheld Tuesday by the California Supreme Court, violates the federal constitutional right for same-sex couples to marry. The complaint was filed Friday, and Olson and co-counsel David Boies -- who argued against Olson in the Bush v. Gore case -- will hold a news conference in Los Angeles Wednesday to explain the case. The conference will feature the two same-sex couples on whose behalf Olson filed suit. The suit also asks the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California to issue an injunction that would stop enforcement of Proposition 8 and allow same-sex couples to marry while the case is being decided. "I personally think it is time that we as a nation get past distinguishing people on the basis of sexual orientation, and that a grave injustice is being done to people by making these distinctions," Olson told me Tuesday night. "I thought their cause was just." I asked Olson about the objections of conservatives who will argue that he is asking a court to overturn the legitimately-expressed will of the people of California. "It is our position in this case that Proposition 8, as upheld by the California Supreme Court, denies federal constitutional rights under the equal protection and due process clauses of the constitution," Olson said. "The constitution protects individuals' basic rights that cannot be taken away by a vote. If the people of California had voted to ban interracial marriage, it would have been the responsibility of the courts to say that they cannot do that under the constitution. We believe that denying individuals in this category the right to lasting, loving relationships through marriage is a denial to them, on an impermissible basis, of the rights that the rest of us enjoy…I also personally believe that it is wrong for us to continue to deny rights to individuals on the basis of their sexual orientation." Technically, the suit Olson has filed is against the governor, attorney general, and other officials of the state of California. Ultimately, Olson said, it's a question that will be decided in Washington, by the Supreme Court. "This is an issue that will get to the Supreme Court, and I think it could well be this case," he said.[/rquoter]
unlike you, i'm sure many of us don't care if it's a conservative or liberal supporting what we support.
Actually they aren't silly enough to claim there is no difference between a president who supports amending the constitution to ban gay marriage and a president who is opposed to amending the constitution to ban gay marriage. I'm sure even Ted Olsen, or anyone else would never make such a ridiculous claim. Your position on the issue obviously isn't rooted in any kind of real commitment to it.
muck mark, pretty sure George Onorato is your senator. nice one, you've got there. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/PmZ3HB_waGs&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/PmZ3HB_waGs&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
can you point me to the specific line in the constitution where it clearly states marriage is a right? to anyone?
Prop 8 overturned in Federal court: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hOiMLmsztmiGlNvjNLQLw4N41h1QD9HCU44G5 [rquoter]A federal judge overturned California's same-sex marriage ban Wednesday in a landmark case that could eventually land before the U.S. Supreme Court to decide if gays have a constitutional right to marry in America. ... Walker, however, found that the gay marriage ban violates the Constitution's due process and equal protection clauses while failing "to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license." "Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples," the judge wrote in his 136-page ruling. ...[/rquoter]
