Rookie year: 10 pts 6.5 rebs 3 blocks 2 assists 1 steal 2nd year: 10 pts 8.5 rebs 3.5 blocks 1 steal 3rd year: 14.5 pts 8.5 rebs 2.7 blocks So if Yao avg's numbers similar to these would anyone be worried or dissapointed. Would you think this is about right or would you think of Yao as a bust? Are these reasonable expectations or too low?
As long as the Rockets are winning, I could care less what Yao Ming's stats are. He is going to have a huge presence one way or another and things in Clutch City are going to be very exciting. As long as the Rockets are playing as a team & developing some chemistry- that is what I want to see more than anything. But yes, those numbers would be a big improvement over the production we have had in the last few years at the Center position.
Those are fine with me. Chances are that he gets a low amount of shots and makes most of them, and that's ok with me. I guess there pretty reasonable. I would think he'd avg maybe 2-4 pts more his rookie and sophmore season, but its not big deal. It would depend on how he is used.
I think those rebounding numbers would be a disappointment, especially 6.5 rebounds which is about what Steve is at from the point guard position.
I was just curious because those are Shawn Bradleys numbers his first two years and his first year with Dallas. BTW I would be a bit dissapointed if those were Yao's avg's but then it would also depend somewhat on how succesfull the Rockets are.
Yes, that was pretty smooth of you Crash. But definitely expect to see better numbers than those, especially in the scoring area. It's already been rumored that Rudy is designing plays to run through Yao as well as Steve. That means he should have plenty of touches, unlike the way it is on his national team. He may even pull out the old Olajuwon plays.
i think the points avg will be a little higher due to his high FG percentage and his incredible touch. i wouldnt be surprised if he averaged 12-14 points his rookie year. the rebound avg. seems reasonable concerning he wont be playing that many minutes.
No I would not be happy! His score indicates that he isn't getting enough touches. In the third season he should be 25pts/gm 12rbs/gm 5block/gm IMHO By the third year he should be the MAN on the Team!
I'd say the points are fine, given the other scoring options the Rox will have. I'd like to see more rebounds and blocks. Here are Shawn Bradley's shooting percentages for the same years: .409 .455 .461 I would think Yao's % would be much higher than these as the third or fourth scoring option, as a lot of his points would be coming from put-backs, alley oops, etc. Maybe the following %'s would be about right: Year 1 - .540 Year 2 - .580 Year 3 - .585
Naw, I expect Yao to be like this. 1st year: PPG 13 Rebs 7 Blks 2.7 2nd year: PPG 15 Rebs 8.4 Blks 2.9 3rd year: PPG 18 Rebs 8.7 Blks 3.4
Even this might be underestimating the guy's touch. He hasn't shot under 60% in many cases so far, even vs the USA team. I know the NBA will be really tough for him, but the fact is Yao does not seem to force shots. But then, maybe that's what the NBA will teach him first.
Lobo, Exellent points. Bradley did have very poor f/g %. Something else to consider is that in today's NBA 14 pts 8 rebs and 3 blocks gets you into the all star game. I also thinks if he puts up those numbers his rookie year then he is in the running for ROY. One last point is that Bradley was THE man on all of those teams unless you consider someone like Robert Pack a team leader. The Rockets have Francis, Cat, MoT, Griffin, Boki and Kenny so Yao Ming will not be asked to carry the team the way Bradley was. It is entirely possible that Yao's numbers are close to those of Bradley's when in fact Yao is much more efficient.
I would be disappointed unless he got those numbers in only 15 minutes per game...which would be disappointing in itself. For Yao, most of the shots he takes are easy. If you have a guy who gets easy shots, I don't care if he is a rookie - you need to feed him. The bottom line is we need to give Yao the ball enough to make him a credible threat. This will open up the offense for our other players. You have to look at it from the perspective of the other coaches. Last year, due to injuries and lack of talent on the Rockets, they were able to really key their defenses to Cat and Steve (when he was healthy). With more offensive talent on our team, we should really see the ambiguous duo come out of the closet as a FORCE! (I can't believe how excited I am about this season )
you know its funny that these numbers are low for the first 3 years what were they 10, 6 and so on. If he had a cato cotract would ya'll be cool with that? It obvious catos contract is causeing all this dilema.
I would always be happy as long as all the guys are healthy and the Rockets regain the winning tradition. It'll make me much happier if our No.1 pick behaves like a veteran.
I will guess that yMING's stats will be: pts- 14.5 rebs- 7 blks- 3 stls- 1.5 make the opponents miss- often intimidation- often assists-4 fouls-4 opponents arching their shots higher-often pumping fist after he scores- often saying bad words to referees in Chinese during a bad call- often ROY!!
Crash, thanks for starting this thread. If nothing else it's shown me how some, like myself, have seen Yao play for the first time since the 2000 Olympics and have measured our perceptions of what might happen this season. Well, this BB has been the perfect outlet for Yao-mania and I've sensed a subtle shift from hoop-heads young and old, senior posters and newbies (like myself) since the WBCs started. It's funny because the WBCs have provided a ton of ammo for most arguements. Honestly, Bradley's stats from his rookie year would improve the Rockets a great deal simply because Yao's 7'6 in sneakers and defensively that's a problem for the opposition, but offensively it's going to be even more important. And not just setting picks. Hakeem was never huge but became great at "boxing out" offensively while his guards slashed to the hoop. Illegal? Technically yes, but hard to call for refs watching a guy driving to the hole (Kenny Smith could miss more open lay-ups than anyone in history). I think that alone makes Francis, Cat, Mooch and E. Griifin (anybody really seen Nachbar play?) more effective. Hakeem, of course was able to do that because he was always double-teamed, Yao can just stand there with his arms in gun-slinger position and cause traffic. Ok stats for Yao's rookie season. Well, I'm a native Houstonian and was 8 when Rudy showed up in Houston and have kind of a tin ear where coach-speak is involved and I can honestly say I've only thought he was "hyping" two rookies as an assistant or head coach. One was Dream (whom I went to UH with, I wondered what Akeem was doing in practice that all of us didn't see at UH) and the other was Franchise. Steve Francis, a highlight-reel tweener, good passer for a 2 guard, suspect jumper, young and a little reckless. He said last year Griffin was "at the top of our board with tons of upside", and that just didn't seem too hyped to me (great rookie season, too Eddie). With me, it's strange is that everyone knows Rudy (and CD) can't contain themselves where Yao's concerned. And Rudy is just not a "marketing" kind of coach. Has anyone heard anything from Rudy that suggests Yao is a "project"? He says it will take some time for Yao to adjust and golly, he's under a ton of pressure. I'm going to just believe Rudy for once here: 18 pts, 9 rb, 4 assists, 3 blks. Yao's going to play more minutes than anyone thinks. Rudy sees something big alright. Oh, and 57% fga. That's just a rookie.
