Polished Spur: San Antonio's 1999 pick Ginobili is the talk of Indianapolis

Point well taken, the Rockets are looking up, but my point was this: that Duncan won't leave San Antonio anyway, especially if he still gets to slum it at the power forward spot. Kandi isn't fantastic, but he played well with Brand alongside him (as well as during a contract year but oh, well) and he'd let the Spurs keep the Twin Towers (the Admiral's played like a 3rd class Petty Officer for a few years and they still play well). So, add Kandi to the mix with Ginobli and the Spurs, damn them, won't go away, and we'll have that much more competition each year.

 

Well that is a good point. Kandi allows them to keep up that Twin Towers line-up. And the Spurs didn't need Robinson to be great, just dependable, and Kandi can be that. We'll see. If Griffin and Ming develop like they should the Rockets will have a superior frontline I believe.

 

Unless you think somebody like Kandi is going to be better then Ming and Griffin, I don't think Duncan can outplay an entire frontline by himself. Personally I think that Griffin will be an all-around star player (great rebounder, defender, athletic, and can score inside and outside), and Ming looks like he can be an elite center.

 

Ming and Griffin both have that potential.

 

Yeah sure Mr Spur, Duncan is god so no way that two lottery picks could end up becoming as good a player, or even a better player then him? Afterall there's no way possible that any lottery pick after Duncan could ever be better then the great and powerful Duncan right?

 

Haha, yeah, whatever. Why don't you go back to the altar and worship the All-Powerful Tim Duncan. I actually defended the Spurs and their asterick title on this board for you. Boy did I make a big mistake. You better hope that the All-Powerful Duncan, 57 year old Kevin Willis, and 100 year old David Robinson > Shaq.

 

Great post.

And even if Yao and Eddie don't equal or better Duncan, the Rockets still have a far more talented team.

Steve and Cuttino > Parker and Ginobili
Rice and Nachbar > Steve Smith
Yao and Eddie = or > Duncan and old codger

Rockets > Spurs

It may not happen this year, but in the years to come, oh man...

 

I think so ZRB. Nobody said that the Rockets would have a better team then the Spurs NEXT year, but if MrSpur would actually rather have Duncan and Willis in 2 or 3 years instead of Griffin and Ming then I feel sorry for him. That's assuming Duncan is still a Spur in 2 or 3 years.

 

There really is no way Ming or Griffin will be as good, or better than Duncan.

 

And why is that?

 

Why is that!? Is there some rule where nobody can be better then Duncan?

 

Parker=Jesus
Ginobili=Moses
S. Smith=Vishnu
Duncan=Buddha
David=Allah

How can anyone even thing about beating such a Godly team?


**** THE SPURS! Steve Francis will make Phony Parker look like a silly little runt that he is.

Steve Francis > Parker
Cuttino Mobley > Ginobili (or however you spell that bastards name)
Nachbar, Rice > Steve Smith
Eddie Griffin, Maurice, KT < Duncan Willis
Yao Ming, Cato > p***y

 

That was a funny post .

 

Even if hypothetically the Rockets and Spurs play in the playoffs next year and Griffin drops 40 and 20 a game and 7 blocks a game and holds Duncan to 25 and 10 and a crappy FG% (aka 95), you'd be finding a way to blame it on Popovich or some other lame excuse. Anything to avoid admitting a Spur is inferior to a Rocket.

The Spurs are the best team ever. Ginobilli is the next MJ and Duncan is clearly the best big man ever. The only big man in NBA history even close to Duncan is David Robinson. Shaq? Hakeem? Those guys only were great because of Bob Hill and Greg Popovich.

 

Griffin will not be better than Duncan. Ming has the potential to be. Duncan is the first or second-best player in the NBA. Those players don't come around everyday, and they're usually not #7 picks in drafts.

 

You have a point, then again look at where guys like Karl Malone, John Stockton, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, Charles Barkley and others like that were drafted. Paul Pierce feel to #10. The best player isn't always drafted at the top, look at Kandi and Bradley.

 

I totally agree with Freak here. As good as EG could be it is a snowballs chance he becomes as good as Duncan. For Ming, it is possible, but I'd settle for right for him to become at Duncan's current caliber or just below. That would mean he would be a top 3 player for a long time.

However as others have said, you don't need a power forward better than Duncan to beat the Spurs. Otherwise the Spurs would have far more than the 1 ring they earned against weak competition (note, I don't believe in the * because of the short season, but the fact was Spurs didn't have to face very formidable competition--Knicks and Blazers pre SS & SP moves were the leagues token resistance, in an overall down year for quality teams in the NBA).

The fact is the gap in our guards from the Spurs guards is HUGE, and we have better prospects at the SF and C. No way to I expect us to be better than them next year, but I wouldn't trade our future for theirs. Barring the Spurs landing a stud player via FA and keeping all the good one's they have--both big questions, us and the Mavs are in better position to lead the West (and perhaps the league) by the time the Lakers (as soon as Shaq loses effectiveness) and Kings (because of the CW and VD age they have 2 more runs left in them max) fade. Personally, even though Manu (who has a lot more potential to be an elite guard than Parker IMO) has to give Spurs folks a lot of hope and is a concern for the rest of us, right now I am more concerned about Dirk still getting better and us being able to overtake the Mavs in a couple of years than I am overtaking the Spurs.