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Will Stern and owners bring down the "Franchise Tag" hammer in the next CBA?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by meh, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. meh

    meh Member

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    In the last labor negotiations, the owners pretty much smacked around the players association with the max contract and rookie salary scale to minimize runaway salaries. And to that extent, they did a pretty damn good job.

    But this CBA, I think the new threat for the owners is players running the show. The problem is the perception among fans of smaller franchises that they'll never compete, because their stars will just leave them after a few years. And Lebron leaving Cleveland, Bosh leaving Toronto, and the threat of Melo/CP3 trying to force their way out, only reinforces this notion.

    It's just not good for business in a world where fans expect that their team gets a fair chance to compete. It's one thing if your team fail because of incompetent front office(just change them), but a different thing if the system sets you up to fail. Now, whether this is really true or not is irrelevant. It's simply a matter of perception. If fans don't believe their team has any chance, they'll simply stop caring.

    To this extent, it seems the almighty equalizer would be the dreaded Franchise Tag. I think the owners would definitely push for something like it next year. Right or wrong, I believe owners now think the inmates are running the asylum. And being egotistical billionaires, they really won't care for it.
     
  2. AstroRocket

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    Might as well just cancel all of next season if they go for that.
     
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  4. meh

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    Why? Superstars are very few in the NBA. The players association is made up of a mostly role players and semi-stars, who would never in their career be affected by this.

    There's a reason why the owners limited max contracts and rookie salary in the last CBA. Because it's the most beneficial to the owners while affecting the least number of players. If anything, hitting the superstars would be a lot easier than lowering the overall player share % of total revenue.
     
  5. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

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    besides the fact that baseball is boring (strike, ball, ball, foul, foul, ball) but the yankees, redsox, and braves winning every single year. why the hell would you be a royals fan or pirates fan. stupid in my opinion.
     
  6. saitou

    saitou J Only Fan

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    Sorry, what do you mean by franchise tag? Seems to me the best solution to the problem as you describe it is to get rid of the max salary limit. Let teams pay whatever it takes to keep their stars.
     
  7. sbyang

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    If a player got franchise tagged, wouldn't that guy just go Vince Carter/Tmac on the team?

    Jog around, fire up a couple of 3s, pose, look at cheerleaders, get a phantom injury.
     
  8. dharocks

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    I wonder what would happen if NBA players would resist the urge to spend their money like idiots instead of living paycheck-to-paycheck. You'd have to think they'd have a lot more negotiating power.
     
  9. Raven

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    I've mentioned this multiple times, in multiple threads. Yes, the NBA needs a franchise tag, and the public will overwhelmingly support it.
     
  10. daeyeth

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    Because those few players are the face of basketball and have the most power. There is no NBA without the Kobes, LeBrons, and Melos, etc.
     
  11. Steve_Francis_rules

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    That won't prevent star players from leaving for bigger markets. Lebron and Bosh took pay cuts to go to Miami.
     
  12. DCkid

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    I think it will be difficult, but worth a shot. I don't know why a fan wouldn't support it. Are you just looking out for the multi-millionaires?
     
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    The league has to do something to keep stars out of craplands to franchises lead by robber barons like the one in OKC.

    I am essentially pointing out how ridiculous the thread is, the tremendous overration. What happened this offseason almost never happens. Players rarely take less money to play elsewhere. The best player under 25 just resigned to play in Oklahoma. Finally, this whole thing has created the most NBA buzz in years.

    Allowing owners to steal teams from cities who won't put up their taxpayers money to entirely fund new arenas is something far more damaging to PR and decency, yet Stern and Co don't stop that. The NBA and players union are not going to shut down FA--the most they can do is stilt contracts a little more towards the home team.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    So . . basically
    Support Billionaire over Millionaires?

    allow teams to pay whatever is not a solution
    unless you going to pay 100$ for the nosebleed section

    Rocket River
     
  15. JuanValdez

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    After reading the whole thread, I still don't know what you mean by a Franchise Tag or how it would work. Do you mean the team would designate a player (or a couple of players) as franchise players and they wouldn't be allowed to switch teams in free agency?

    If that's what you mean, I don't see anybody going for it. Obviously, the tier 1 players will oppose it. Lesser players will also oppose it because (1) they still hope to be tier 1 players and (2) it is obviously inherently unfair to curtail a person's right to choose his employment at the whim of his current employer (who drafted him, no less). I don't see the public (or Congress) being happy about that unfairness either.
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    This is stupid, the franchise tag in the NFL can only be used 2 years consectively on a single player. would be delaying the inevitable.

    secondly, the franchise tag is basically used to get a player signed when contract negotiations are going no where. its not to keep a player against his will.

    and I'm not sure if you can use it against an unrestricted free agent

    I can't believe people's overreaction to this guy going to another team. get a grip folks
     
  17. ArtisGilmore

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    Well the way it works in the NFL is that any UFA can be designated as the franchise player by the original team, then (if using the exclusive tag, which is clearly what OP is going after here) he cannot negotiate with any other team, and is guaranteed a 1 year deal at the average of the top 5 salaries at that position (in the NBA this would surely be a max salary). Now, in the NFL contracts are not guaranteed fully, but still players hate this enough to stage holdouts if a team is using it (another thing which NBA teams almost never see) and I remember some players end their holdouts with the agreement that their team never use the franchise tag on them again.

    I'd imagine that since the "fully guaranteed" part of the deal is already in the NBA, if players are franchised against their will, they may well end up holding out. That's a part of the NFL that the NBA could definitely do without especially since it has enough publicity and image problems already.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag
     
  18. DCkid

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    You do know this already happens in the NFL, right?
     
  19. emjohn

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    Really, all they need to do is ban S&T deals that are for above MLE money or above 3 years. Kill the loophole.
     
  20. Raven

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    It doesn't have to be exactly like the NFL version. We can't have NBA players conspiring to create three or four super teams, while the rest of the league becomes nothing more than a glorified farm system.
     

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