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Yao Ming is frustrated with the guards

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fwang, Sep 3, 2002.

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  1. fwang

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    http://sports.sohu.com/74/53/sports_news164905374.shtml

    Some one helps to translate the article from Shanghai Morning News.

    1. Yao Ming hurt his right hand slightly during China vs. US game.

    2. Yao Ming while initially diplomatically talking to the reporter, finally expressed his frustration that he did not get balls from his guards. "When I was double/triple teamed, the guards would never pass the ball to me anymore. Why? If they pass ball to me, I can still assist, as I did to Zhu FangYu."

    Q: Has he ever talked to his coach and the teammates about this? What is going on?
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    frustration is an understatement. This is like Matt Maloney not passing Dream the ball.
     
  3. Texas Stoke

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    rockbox, I agree.

    It looks as if these guys are purposely freezing out Ming for some reason -- jealousy maybe. I'm sure his teamates and coach are well aware of all the attention Ming is getting and deep down, although they may say otherwise, are pretty upset at his being singled out from the rest of the team by the American media and fans. I feel this is probably the main reason Ming is not getting his touches.
     
  4. RC Cola

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    This is what I was thinking. I heard they didn't always give him the ball because of the team aspect, but he doesn't have to score with the ball. He could be used to set up the offense. It would still be a team effort. JMO.
     
  5. ROXTXIA

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    That isn't too far-fetched. Maybe our Asian brothers and sisters on the BBS (michecon, windandsea, et al) can lend us their expertise.

    Are the Chinese guards absolutely pathetic? (Rhetorical question.) Or is the Chinese coach just looking to serve Yao some more "Asian-parent tough love"?

    I have never read any praise from the coach about Yao Ming, never never never; if Yao scored 50 points on 16-17 shots and went 18-20 from the line, it's always, "He missed a shot, he must improve if he expects to play in the NBA."

    Hell, even I could get Yao the ball. Just throw it up high in his general direction. I'd see Baron Davis coming at me, scream a girlish "eek!" and toss the ball way up, and Yao could grab it. These CNT guards could do it. Why don't they?
     
  6. Roc Paint

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    Good things happen to those who MING...
     
  7. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    One thing I just realized is that the NT head coach trained under Nellie and company. Nellie is not known for having a Post-up offense. If you look at the Mavs and the GS teams he coached, they are all run and gun type teams that don't really utilize the post much. Just a thought.
     
  8. TheFreak

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    So Ming is crying about his teammates to the media? That doesn't work over here. People on this board especially get offended by it. Come on heypartner, tell everyone how terrible it is to say things like this to the media about your teammates.
     
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    These are the best reason I can think of:
    1) Current backcourt player in Chinese NT are all young players in CBA with n ointernational competition experience, they haven't seen any tight perimeter defence like this and they panic.
    2) Guards don't want to just throw the ball high in fear of making a mistake. I can imagine NT coach barking at them if they just throw the ball high but the ball end up in other team's hands.
    3) Chinese still have the mentality "we ain't short of guards who can shoot".
    4) They are just ill-prepared. Ming wasn't getting a lot of double team before he makes a name of himself recently. Guards dont know how to deal with the situation.

    Just my thoughts.
     
  10. leehoang

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    the chinese guards suck. they don't know what there doing.

    there all a bunch of ball hogs, trying to take some glory away

    ming. that's all it is. there jealous.
     
  11. A-Train

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    <b>***sarcasm alert***</b>
    Not passing to somebody that is triple teamed? My god, that's totally unheard of! God forbid you pass it to somebody that is <i>open</i>
    <b>***end sarcasm***</b>

    Add to the fact Yao has turnover problems and would probably lose the ball if he got it while double teamed, and this wasn't a good quote for somebody that supposedly has great basketball smarts. Guess what Yao, it's called a zone, and teams have been playing it for a really long time.

    The reason he gets triple teamed is that the chinese guards can't play for squat. He won't have to worry about being double and triple teamed in the NBA, because our guards actually know how to do stuff like shoot the ball and drive to the lane
     
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    Windandsea:
    Can you traslate the article for us?
     
  13. crash5179

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    OMG your right! :eek: Nellies whole offense has always been based on having guys that shoot the rock. He has never been able to produce one single dominant big man and even the people here in Dallas last year said that little whistle utilized the Mav's big men much better than Nellie during the time that Nellie was away from the team on personal busness. Maybe you are on to something.
     
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    I think part of the problem could be in the translation. That may not have been what Yao said word for word. I know in Wang's case there have been several times his translator didn't say exactly what Wang was saying. I don't think there is any doubt that Yao is frustrated but seriously doubt he would critisize his own teammates. I also don't think they would not pass the ball to Yao out of simple jelousy. That's just not the way the Chinese play ball. They are very team oriented, and even though they may suck they wouldn't do that out of jelousy. Besides if their coach thought that's what they were doing they would probably be banned from playing in the CBA ever again.
     
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    If you put him with guards that know to pass the ball up high and work with Yao to hold the ball high then he will stop turning the ball over so much.
     
  16. Timing

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    Mobley and Francis aren't exactly known for their passing so he might not notice too much of a difference with the Rockets. ;)
     
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    You are right. There are some problems in translation. I will try to translate it as literally as possible (while wind&sea is still sleeping).

    Shrimpie
     
  18. windandsea

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    This is a report from Shanghai media. They always defend Yao Ming by all means.

    What Ming said to the reporter is not like he was "complaining" or "criticizing", but more like he was giving out his"suggestion" or "opinion". (but when I read it again, I can feel a little complaint in it.)

    He injuried his leg at the first quarter. And his hand is still very painful. But what bothered him most is the failure.
     
  19. superpro

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    The translation is good. That's exactly what he said after the reporter asked him couple of times about his feeling of the game. Yao got a palm bruise. Yao was very upset to see other weak teams to beat strong teams such as Yugoslavia, while Chinese NT to lose to almost everybody. According to him, the problem that guards cannot pass to either him or Bateer has been existing for a long while and is still there now. **** the coach!
     
  20. Easy

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    Let me try to translate that quote for you guys.

    "The coordinating between the inside game and the outside game is still an unsolved problem. Now, double teaming me or Bateer inside is the tactic of almost every team. But that doesn't mean we have no way to beat it. The key is that when I am double teamed, I can still attract the opponent's [defensive] fire power. And thus I can create more space and opportunity for my teammates. Passing me the ball doesn't necessarily mean that I am the main scorer. I can assist and can share the ball."

    This passage is in the context that Yao Ming was very depressed about their losing while watching other weaker team such as Puerto Rico, Spain, and Angola beating stronger opponents.

    He does seem to be upset about the guards not passing him the ball. But he is not concerned about him not scoring big numbers but about the Chinese NT losing ball games.

    BTW, his right hand was injured in the game against the US. It still hurts and needs to be iced after each game and practice.
     

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