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Rockets Matching Cavs Lowry Offer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cardpire, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. wekko368

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    It's an issue when your opposition is bigger and stronger than you. Guys like Billups, Williams, and Kidd would just back him down.

    Like I said, since he was already shooting high percentages, any improvement wouldn't be substantial.

    Can you name a few players whose court vision has improved over the years?

    Court vision is a skill thats more innate than learned.

    Absolutely. Surely you've noticed that when he penetrates, he gets the ball on the backboard as quickly as possible, right? That's to avoid the shot blocker and potential foul. Lowry prefers to absorb the contact and take the foul.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Come on now, you don't think Dana Barros ended up being a franchise player?

    He remind you of anybody?
     
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  3. Aleron

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    The BYC status only applies for the first year of the contract does it not?
     
  4. LongTimeFan

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    He shot 39.8%. As the first option in an offense. The fact that you keep repeating "under 40%" is hogwash and a lame attempt by you to try to cling on to a failing argument. If he would have shot 0.2% better, suddenly you would have been okay with him as a shooter? Please.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Yet, that rarely happened even without Yao in the middle to protect the paint.

    Oh, and the number of PGs that post up is not exactly a ton..now is it?

    Not to mention that they have to guard Brooks on the other end......

    Lots of players have gotten better with passing and court vision, do you remember how awful Hakeem was at passing the ball?

    And your argument is making a wrong assumption that AB is a bad passer, he is not, he did quite well last year, and as the starting lineup has better finishers, I expect his assist numbers to go up.

    I think Morey talked about about the True assist and how happy they were that AB was making the right read.

    Yeah, people are born with this magical COURT vision.

    Of course we didn't ge to see too much of this alleged Lowry court vision in the half court set....which will be key this year.....

    Again, we are lucky to have them both.

    DD
     
  6. worzel gummidge

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    No, you keep repeating 40%. I counter with volume of shots taken to put in context.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    39.8% on a ton of 3pt shots proves that he is a very good 3pt shooter.

    33.3% on 3s is equal to 50% on 2s....so that extra 6.5% means that he has a very high true shooting percentage.

    Never mind you are just arguing to argue....

    DD
     
  8. BarkleyHater84

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    The reason why he took such a high volume of shots is due to the lack of scorers. Ariza had an abysmal shooting start last season and teams doubled Scola often. The offense was stagnant a lot last year and Aaron would have to shoot us out of it....of course that changed a little once KMart got here, but he was still hitting clutch shots lat in games. He was a .423 shooter overall with a .398 3pt percentage while running the offense. Not bad for a late first rd pick....
     
  9. LongTimeFan

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    Sure, but like I said -- with every season he (should be) getting stronger and better able to combat this. There's nothing you can do about the man matched up with you being taller.. but you can be smarter in how you defend them and where you make them go in the court. I'm not worried about him being backed down as much as I would be about him being bodied up when the bigger PGs drive -- either way, he needs to get stronger/smarter with his defense.

    Substantial? No.. but I don't really view Brooks as a franchise player. I'm not sure what more you expect out of him. He had to carry our offense this past year.. with help/Yao now, this should free up some of the pressure off him. I think it's a fair conclusion to assume that his shooting %s will improve when the defense is not 100% focused on stopping him. You asked how he could improve.. shooting % is certainly one of the main areas.

    Again, he'll never be Steve Nash or Deron Williams.. but then again neither will Lowry. Lowry's great in the open floor and so-so in the half court sets.

    That doesn't mean that Brooks can't get smarter.. he's been a starting NBA PG for less than two years and improved every year he was at Oregon (according to Morey).. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he can improve his passing.


    I don't see how avoiding the shot blocker equates to not liking contact? Lowry bulldozes into people -- he loves contact. Brooks would rather make the basket, Lowry would rather draw the foul -- but that doesn't mean that Brooks shies away from contact.

    You asked how Brooks could improve from his third year -- the answer is his defense (getting stronger/smarter) & his efficiency (higher FG%, making the smarter play). For a guy who improved his game every year in college, I'm not ready to say he's at his ceiling after only being the starting PG for 1.5 years.

    The fact that he shot 39.8% from downtown while shooting that many threes only hurts your argument -- which at this point, I'm not even really sure what it is. Are you comparing him to Rafer? I hope not.
     
  10. KALIKULI

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    Ab and KL are big part of they did Rockets and i like Morey did as far as Kyle making him known as one of the important part of the Rockets. Well done DM!
     
  11. DaDakota

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    [Sarcasm]Why would the Rox match Lowry at that price? He is only the BACKUP on a lottery team that finished 42-40.[/sarcasm]

    All kidding aside agree with your post 100%.

    DD
     
  12. Rockets2K

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=189909

    this other thread where it is ontopic to be discussing Brooks and whether or not he should be traded seemed like a nice place for this discussion, I see very few mentions of Lowry being matched in the last 4 pages of this thread.

    Seems like a reasonable request, lets see who follows it.
     
  13. thcdrummer007

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    Glad to have him back...they have the perfect tandem at pg..
     
  14. ILoveTheRockets

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    dogs do not have correct grammar sir! :grin:
     
  15. redwhiteone

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    Great move. This shows how important he is with our team :)
     
  16. mdrowe00

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    Whew.

    That was close. And the right thing to do.

    Aaron Brooks or Kyle Lowry can play with Yao Ming and play well. Both have their weaknesses, but nobody's perfect.

    And that's why you field a TEAM. A good team, preferably.
     
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    My hound never barks a sentence that ends with a preposition.
     
  18. forchette49

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    Love the player, not so much the contract, seems on par with the egregious spending this summer though. At least the final year is a team option, which seems rather odd/rare for players of his caliber. Afterall, he could start for half the teams in the league, easy.

    We better be able to win with this team though. Even though we have a few expirings coming off the book next summer, with Lowry's new deal, Scola's coming deal, and Brooks'/Yao's big payday next summer, I just don't see us being a "cap-friendly" team anytime soon. DM has said he really wants to acquire another star player to pair with Yao via a trade, but these new contracts will make our "assets" harder to trade IMO. It will be interesting...

    BTW, does anyone know if Brooks is going to be a restricted free agent? I'm thinking that he will be unrestricted.
     
  19. Simon Honeybone

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    @#$*&()# paying 8 million a year for Kyle Lowry.

    Not impressed by this move even for a second.
     
  20. forchette49

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    It's only $6 million per season, with a team option for the 4th year.
     

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