What if Houston had just offered Lowry 4-years, $18M to start?

Lowry never would have signed for that low.

He sees himself as an NBA starting level point guard, and he's probably right. Though, I would like to see him improve the jumper a la Avery Johnson.

The $18 million would have just been the starting point for the negotiations to go up, which is why the Rockets don't do it that way. Also, a low ball offer might piss someone off more than this route.

I think the Rockets will match the $24 million. If you use a borderline starter as your back-up PG, then you have to expect to pay that rate.

 

Lowry would never take it. Why take it in a market where there's cap space all over the place and he is a solid PG. The cav's are overpaying but how can Morey not pay it after saying we will match no matter what. If they don't match it opens a can of worms for the teams interested in Scola. Besides Lowry is to valuable to this team to let him walk. When Lowry was injured last season we looked bad. The Rockets will not find anyone close to Lowry's level as a replacement. We will be taking a step backward if we let him walk away.

I actually think losing Lowry might be worst than losing Scola. Not because Scola isn't more valuable but because Patterson brings some things that Scola doesn't and hill is a 4 and not a 5. Okay maybe not worse but Lowry is almost as valuable. His contract is the price you have to pay if you want to compete. Even if that means matching dollar for dollar in luxury tax money. If Les doesn't sign him it proves he wasn't serious about spending whatever it takes this offseason.

Dan Gilbert's a **** for putting us in this situation. Now I understand why he wrote such a stupid letter. He's a stupid man. Maybe he thinks the Rockets are bluffing. What does he stand to lose to test us. But in the end he won't get Lowry without giving some assets and he just made an enemy. At least I hope that's true. otherwise the Rockets will never be able to use that bluff ever again.

 

Disagree about Scola vs Lowry, but can see your point.

I don't mind Gilbert doing this at all, it is a business, we can't let emotions get in the way.

Morey has consistently said he would match for Lowry, so I expect him to match, don't you?

DD

 

I think $6 mil is about right for the guy. I figured all along, he would recieve at least mle money. I believe he has proven he is the best back-up point guard in the league. He changes the dynamics of what Brooks adds to the team. As DD speculated, I doubt he wants to go to Cleveland. The team is trash now without Lebron, and he is still behind Mo Williams in the depth chart. I think his tweets are being taken out of context. He has been nothing but a professional in his time here, so thinking otherwise, is just gossip.

 

how the hell do you take a character limited "tweet" out of context?

lack of context is the idea and the statements are pointed

 

How do we know the Rockets didn't offer Lowry such a deal and it was just rejected?

 

he wasnt going to sign a contract until he got offers from all potential suitors.

 

I don't think it would have mattered. We would have put down the offer and that would have just given his agent a starting point for negotiations with other teams. Obviously they were going to explore every option for Kyle regardless. They'd be foolish not to. I'd assume Kyle would have gotten this same offer from the Cavs anyway - and it's possible that it could have even been higher if they began with a stronger bargaining position of already having an offer from the Rockets on the table.

I sincerely doubt Lowry's agent would have allowed him to simply sign the dotted line as soon as the Rockets offered him a contract without doing their due diligence.

 

Wouldn't make a difference at all. All you would be doing is "insulting him" with such a low offer. The agent would take that offer and show to every single team before even thinking about signing an offer.

 

why does everyone keep on talking about $6 million for Lowry. the real contract is $17 million for three years with a fourth year TEAM OPTION for almost $7 million. they don't have to pay it. the first year starts at a little over $5 million dollars or more than half a million below the MLE or about a little more than what a high lottery rookie makes. people are acting like the Rox signed Lowry for the full MLE for six years which even then isn't that bad of a contract considering that Lowry is still improving and yet to enter his prime.

 

http://twitter.com/PDcavsinsider/status/18540656287

 

He would have accepted it!

 

If we started at 4yr/18M, it would have ended up higher 4yr/24M. Like JJ Redick 3yr/20M or something.

It's a business, nothing more.

 

There's no reason for Lowry to accept Houston's offer outright, especially since he could always go back and accept it later if no other team extends him a better contract as a free agent.

And since 4-year, $18M is not a huge contract, it would be foolish for Lowry's agent not to see what other offers were out there.

 

LOL, Lowry would have turned it down. If he hadn't, his manager would have told him to turn it down. We just offered a contract to Brad Miller, did he sign it right away? No, he's "weighing his options". Lowry would have done the same thing, Cleveland would have offered him the 4/24 anyway and we'll still be in the same situation.

The fallout is ridiculous. You guys have no idea how to run a team.